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Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Being still under 40 I am wondering if I have already reached the 1/2 way point.....

Browsing the Classic Car section of Ebay and saw a car I have liked for years and I instantly fell in love.

1991 Jaguar XJS 5.3 litre V12 convertible in black, cream leather and a history file going back to the day it was built, stuffed full of receipts showing exceptional love and devotion. Long conversation with SWMBO followed, and the next day we drove the two hours to see it.

Smitten. Going to collect it tommorow. So excited.

But in order to get it I have to spend a fortune on a shed to take all the stuff currently in my garage to get it in, pay for the insurance, breakdown cover, inevitable expenses, etc, etc.

The question is: Is life now over or am I just about to start an exciting new chapter?
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Pizza man
Your going to love it :)

Till you've done 1000 miles and realise how much fuel you've used :(
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Happy Blue!
I'm just very excited for you, in the fact that you got SWMBO to agree to it!!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Mick Snutz
isn't there a company called KWS that rebuilds and upgrades XJS's? I think they even have an ad in the motoring section of the Sat Telegraph. Spares shouldn't be a problem.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - daveyjp
I hope the discussion was fully minuted!

Reading the comprehensive history will give you some idea what you have let yourself in for.

Enjoy it.




Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - J Bonington Jagworth
"I have to spend a fortune on a shed"

That's what I thought, but then I realised you meant a real one!

I'm sure it isn't, really... :-)
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - madf
Hmmm make sure you really love it..

As there will be times you wish you had not bought it..

Did I mention rust?
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Mapmaker
You do know that changing the plugs is a 2-day job.


I nearly bought one the other month. I think I couldn't spend more than about 1k on one.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - craig-pd130
>>> Did I mention rust? <<<

was rust still a big problem for the 90s XJS'?

My cousin had a 4 litre that they got rid of recently, it was a '92 / ' 93 if memory served, and the bodywork appeared unblemished.

What killed it was cousin's wife using it for short shopping trips and never, ever checking the oil while he was working abroad for 6 months, the engine died through oil starvation thanks to a sump full of mayonnaise :-|

Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - retgwte
a long time ago a mate had a few in a row

he ended up always having 2, one on the road and the other canibalised for spares

seemed to be the best financial strategy if youve got the space to store the spare

he wrote one off on a corner in brussels :)

Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - mike hannon
Good luck SFD - just accept that occasionally it will sting you and enjoy it in the meantime.
It might be the last chance for any of us to enjoy that sort of motoring.
When I was looking at (4 litre) XJSs last year I came across a firm near Heathfield in Sussex called Clarkes' Jaguar, that specialises in the model. They really seem to know it all and do a lot of spares business as well. I would use them, no problem.
So two fingers to the environmentalists and doom-mongers. Make the mid-life crisis memorable!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Garethj
They are marvelous fun, bonus points if you can get the trip computer to display less than 2mpg.

Rust can be everywhere, as well as the bodyshell check out the rear suspension arms.

They're what automatics should be like - none of this paddle shift nonsense, just waftomatic and a great intake-of-breath pause when it kicks down. It was easy to remember the shift points in my old one: 1st could do 60mph, 2nd was good for 100mph and 3rd for 145mph. Errrr, probably, officer.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - nick
Good for you! Enjoy it while things like this are still legal and affordable.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - motorprop
Go for it and enjoy . Let us know how the drive back went


and if you didn't buy, say why you did not ?
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Thanks for all the positive feedback!

The car is rust free as far as I can see. All suspension replaced, rear subframe replaced, all brakes replaced. Rewired and all fuel injection systems replaced. New leather retrim a few years ago too. When the (standard) alloy wheels needed a refurb the owner just bought 4 new ones from Jaguar!! Like I say, had a few receipts in the history file!

I have budgeted about £1k a year for 'tinkering' (fixing things that break!) and probably a similar amount for fuel. Trip computer said 10mpg average when I looked at it before the test drive. A change from the 50+ from my company beemer!!!!!! And I will be paying for the fuel too. (Eeeek. What have I done?!)

Thanks for the tip about Clarkes. Amazingly it turns out I live about 2 miles from them yet had never heard of them before! Hope to get there soon.

But, have I prematurely aged, or am I in fact keeping myself young?

A survey at my friend's 40th this past weekend revealed an old school friend with a TR6, another with an 80's TVR, another with an old 911. Is it me or is this a right of passage?
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Avant
No - it's definitely keeping you young! It took me till I was 60 (last year) but I love my Z3. Nothing remotely logical about it - just fun.

I assume this isn't going to be your 'daily driver' - it'll be worthwhile, even in winter, taking it out for a run of at least 20 miles every weekend, or maybe every other weekend in winter.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - stunorthants26
Enjoy. Kudos.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - BobbyG
My mortgage should hopefully be paid off when I am 46 and after that, all mortgage money is going on cars!! Probably just a couple of grand at a time, to say I have had that particular model!!

My friend returned from a christening yesterday to find her partner dead in bed. Still waiting for results of pm but most likely massive heart attack. He was 39.

You get one chance at life, go and live it to the full!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Brian 247
Hi, this is my first time on here and have to comment on the XJS V12 purchase.

Fantastic car if you can get a good one.

I am 42 and had one about ten years ago. It was a 1985 on a B plate and I paid about £2500 for it.

I used the car for every day travel to and from work (only 6 miles each way) and in the winter gave me about 12-13mpg but in the suummer on a good run you could get 22-24mpg.

I owned the car for 3 1/2 years and had it insured on a restricted mileage classic insurance through the Jaguar Enthusiasts Club and it was very cheap. If I remember right you could insure it in increments of 1,500 miles and it just took a phone call as you wanted to add on a higher mileage limit for the policy and it was done on a pro-rata basis.

As others have said on here, rust is the killer, if you have a good one GREAT but generally if i remember right it is the XJS from 94 onwards that had galvanised bodies and were better for no rust.

I don't think I ever paid 2 days for plugs to get changed but it does involve the head being removed from the engine and if I remember it was an 8 hr job.

I actually had two young boys at the time I had the car and I remember many a happy trip with the cycle rack on the boot with three bikes and a german shepherd in the front.

People used to stare all the time it was in Kingfisher met paint and cream leather interior - stunning - fairly cheap to buy but was pricey to run.



Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Armitage Shanks {p}
Good luck to OP. We all need to spend a bit of money on ourselvs at some point in our lives. I am past 'fun' cars but I had some BMWs and 3 Merc convertibles in my time. I would lay odds that one can have fun with an XJS for the less than the annual cost of a smoking or drinking habit, although the Government will empty your wallet whichever hobby or vice you choose.Enjoy the forthcoming summer!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - CGNorwich
and after that, all mortgage money is going on cars.


That nice Mr Brown and his friend have other plans for your money:-)
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - injection doc
you will love it. worked on jags in the 70's till 83 V12 a dream. 6hrs to do plugs.
What I always loved best was the way the speed increased without any effort & 145+ comes very quickly. You don't get an adrenlin rush like you would with a hot hatch but they accelerate like a jet on a runway.
I had a V12 XJSHE & it used to return about 16-22. when you accelerated & watched cars dissapear in the mirror a big grin appears.
Look after & enjoy
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Lud
Heh heh. Now that's what I call encouragement.

Excellent, id....
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - ifithelps
Nothing I've driven pulls as effortlessly as an XJS V12.

As the injection doc says, push the loud pedal at any speed and the thing just pulls and pulls.

It carries the speed lightly, too, so you need to watch you're not going everywhere at 100mph.

I think it's the accessibility of the performance that is so intoxicating, no redlining, clutch dumping, tyre smoking with an XJS.



Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - craig-pd130

Have only experienced the V12 in a Daimler Double Six but I fully understood Quentin Willson's quote about the motor: "It's like being attached to the horizon by a giant piece of elastic. Surreal acceleration accompanied by hardly any noise at all."
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Well, I have collected the beast. Or should it be the beautiful graceful cat? Actually it is both. A purring pussycat when cruising, but with a nice big fat surge with a refined snarl when you want it.

Did not feel massively powerful, but just keeps gaining speed as it it will never stop accelerating. I think the tag-line for the Jaguar 'Grace with Pace' could not sum it up better. A drive back from Fareham to Sussex was a joy. Mainly with the top down following SWMBO who let me drive it the whole way (it is 'our' car after all!!!) due to rushing back to pick our daughter up from school.

Daughter's review (aged 8) was a sceptical "it's Okayyyy" with a dubious tone to her voice, til I drove her home in it with the top down, that seemed to do the trick.

Called in at Clarkes (as recommended by a previous poster). Would you believe they have 82 XJS's in stock?!!!!!! Everything you could imagine, from the earliest to the latest, even Richard Burton's Coupe! Will be going here for a 'check up' although the list of receipts with the car is pretty staggering with all previous owners traced, but it would be good to get an expert opinion. As it stands Dave there gave it (a very quick) once over and said it looked like some time and money had been spent on it, and agreed the black paint job was a rarity, although he did point out a very small crease on a panel that could do with some TLC.

Now planning on taking it on the annual London to Brighton Jag run next month, Can't wait. All this fun and excitement (along with some reasonable hope of reliability due to years of TLC) for not too much cash which was not earning any interest now anyway.

Only regret? Leaving it on the drive whilst I get the shed ordered to make room for it in the garage! It rained earlier and I felt very guilty leaving it out there. Car cover to go on when it is dry tomorow.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Oh, and plugs changed 500 miles ago (yes, all of them), by the current owner when he replaced all the fuel injection system, wiring loom, all pipes, etc, in fact everything on top of the engine (everything you can reach with your hand with the bonnet open). And I managed 16.1mpg as a rolling average on the way back (trip computer not reset since the last owner did it, and was at 10mpg when I left his house).

Can't believe I am actually happy with 16mpg, as I was expecting 10! I even paid for the first tank of fuel I have bought with my own cash for nearly 13 years without feeling faint. Must be love........
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Mapmaker
Hadn't realised it was the XJSC. Cool. What did it set you back, 2.5-4k?

Very, very jealous. I went to look at one (hard top) last year, much spent on it, nice looking condition for £1,500, but (1) it was silver (ugh!), and (2) it leaked so the carpets were wet and the floor was presumably minutes from falling through. I guess the dealer's was the first time it had lived outside...


Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Big Bad Dave
SFD, fantastic purchase, well done.

Is it the facelift model (pillarless doors etc)? They were launched in 91 I think on an H reg, so you might have. Most facelifts had the 4 litre straight six, so if you've got a facelift with a 5.3 V12 then you've got something really special.

I hope it gives you years of fun, I'm insanely jealous. Have you thought about an LPG conversion? Knowles Wilkins do them (properly).

I look forward to hearing how you get on with it.

EDIT: Just realised it's a soft top so it will have pillarless doors anyway.

Edited by Big Bad Dave on 11/03/2009 at 10:09

Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Westpig
I'm quite jealous as well.....work mate who retired end of last year turned up yesterday in a TR6....very usable, honest, non pristine but tidy example....it's his retirement present

....and it's got me thinking.....will have to work on the financial director
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
All positive posts. Wow. Must be a record for this site!! :0)

Well, BBD, it is apparently one of the very last of the prefacelifts. On an H plate 1990 but manufactured early that year and registered 5 months later. Perhaps the Black paint put buyers off, or everyone was waiting for the face lift version. It is the convertible rather that the cabriolet so no roof at all remaining when dropped. Have today discovered a big problem though. Managed to persuade self that was a good purchase because the 2+2 conversion done (not standard on pre-facelift cars but available factory-fit a little while later) enabled all three of us to go out in it.

The issue is when the roof is up and daughter sat on (legally required) booster seat, her head seriously hits the roof inside. Will be OK for the 'top down' runs, or when it is just me and her, or my wife and her, but a bit of a problem if the three of us are to do some distance in it. If is was not fitted with seat belts back there she would be OK without the booster, but as it has the belts she must use the seat. Hmmm. Will have to juggle our way round that issue somehow. Anyone any ideas?

And Mapmaker; I wish it had been £2.5k. In it's condition, with the history, etc it was significantly more. But still cheap if you look at Clarkes or KWE's website. Good XJS Convertibles go for about £10k. I paid a lot less than that. Later versions can be easily £16-18k. KWE sold the one used by Oz Clarke and James May on their first wine programe for over £25k I believe. An ex-Rolling Stones one went for £48k!!!

There are a lot of bargain classic cars out there being sold by the poor sods who have been made redundant, or are moving house and can no longer justify or store them. Good for buyers, but an extra kick in the teeth to these poor chaps.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Westpig
The issue is when the roof is up and daughter sat on (legally required) booster
seat her head seriously hits the roof inside. Will be OK for the 'top down'
runs or when it is just me and her or my wife and her but
a bit of a problem if the three of us are to do some distance
in it. If is was not fitted with seat belts back there she would be
OK without the booster but as it has the belts she must use the seat.
Hmmm. Will have to juggle our way round that issue somehow. Anyone any ideas?

thinking laterally...can you take the back seat base out. As long as the booster was to be securely fastened and was cushioned enough on its' own so as not to be uncomfortable, maybe that would make enough difference
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Nsar
My mid life crisis was 2.25 diesel Series III Landy. What was I thinking......?

Does have a safari roof mind you.

Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Big Bad Dave
SFD, have you tested its comical turning circle yet? I remember having to reverse mine on some roundabouts in Highgate.

I'd never heard of Clarkes until today, do they have a website that I can salivate over?
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - mike hannon
>I'd never heard of Clarkes until today, do they have a website that I can salivate over?<

clarkesjaguar.co.uk/

If the black left-hooker is still there I might be back there myself when I get to the UK soon...
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Many thanks for this idea. The base is securely fitted and the back of the seat is fitted to the base, so it might not be easy. I will have a look over the weekend.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Mapmaker
>>All positive posts. Wow. Must be a record for this site!! :0)


When I mentioned an XJS last September, the consensus was that I was mad...

I doubt anybody has paid 10k for one recently... you note yourself that Clarkes have iirc 75 in stock - that's because there's no market; not because they hold lots of lovely stock...

Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Hi Mapmaker,

I could remove the cynic in me and guess that they are buying up lots of stock for when the market picks up they will be an appreciating classic. Or I can just say that I fell in love, the price was (to my mind, and backed up by Clarkes after a quick once-over) pretty good, especially for the condition of the car, and if it loses a packet (percentage-wise), well so be it, I will have had my fun for a few years.

In fact looking at their website I think they always have a good large selection there. Some rare ones too, that if you don't have them, you can't sell them. Customers world-wide too....

From my experience with cars you get what you pay for. A cheap classic, tatty arround the edges, with little history could end up being a huge money pit. I used to have a couple of Capri's (2.0 and 2.8i), both of which rapidly sucked every penny out of the bank and gave me a huge overdraft. The cars afterwards were still worth what I had paid for them BEFORE I sunk all the money into them. This time I have bought a car where all those expensive things have been done, to a high standard and by recognised experts. So (and my fingers are very firmly crossed here!) I should not end up likely to have as many nasty suprises. In other words, spending a few grand extra to get a nice one should (probably) save me money in the future. Ever the optimist......

Something I had picked up on, and that I have heard a few people say (and of course I agree :)) is that Jags look better as they age. After the E type the XJS lacked a lot of comparative grace, but looking at them now with their long sleek lines I think they look just beautiful. IMHO BMW's look worse as they get older (old 5 series make me shudder - oh, and my normal car is a BMW, so I am not knocking them!), whereas Mercedes look better the older they are.

Did you not give in to the madness then? You only live once, etc...
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Lud
What is a 'mid-life crisis'? If it is just a crisis like all the others, but occurring at the mid-point of someone's life, how do they know that the crisis concerned is the mid-life one (unless they have privileged information on the time of their death)?

And why is this alleged crisis an excuse for buying a Jaguar? Surely no excuse is needed.

Of course I am only 70 so haven't had my mid-life crisis yet. I hope when I do have it I can afford a Jaguar, since it seems to be the thing to have. Personally I would go for an XJ12 though, or perhaps a nice C type replica if what I fancied was an old one. But an XF would do.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
If you saw my eating and drinking habits, you would realise that I am hoping that I am only at the mid point, whilst guessing I have probably gone some way over the other side :(

But you are right. No excuse needed.

When you do finally reach the mid-point Lud, (and I can see it is still a little way off), I hope you get the pleasure of one. I can feel the receeding hairline of mine growing back already, and it's only been a few days!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - SeanF
Good for you! When I think of everything I've done since I hit 40 a couple of years ago I wish I'd just bought an XJS instead!!

BTW, it took me ages to work out what SWMBO stood for... must be the CJD setting in!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Snakey
Oh wow.I've just spent an enjoyable half hour drooling over the Clarkes stock!

Hmm,I'm 40 in 18 months or so - if thats what I can look forward to for a mid life crisis then I'm a happy man!

Enjoy it, its sounds like a beauty
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Thanks Snakey, Why wait 'til your 40. I'm still 38!

One of the things with the Clarkes cars is that you can be sure they have been gone over with a fine toothcomb I think. The guy there was saying he only lets them go with a new radiator as this is a problem area for the car due to the original design (long story, can embelish if required..). The number of poor cars they see people buy is high by all accounts. Mind you, they Clarkes prices are by no means cheap as chips.

Looks like I was lucky with a good one, but for sure there will be some rot-boxes out there.

There are a lot in the Jaguar World magazine (I only find this at motorway services) advertised in the back at a reasonable price and KWE and maybe other companies will go out and do an inspection for about £150 I discovered (after buying mine).

I have ordered my real shed now and look forward to getting mine under cover once the garage contents have been cleared out into the shed. I have spent a small fortune on polishing / cleaning materials (even my first clay bar!) ready for making it even more beautiful. Ahh, roll on summer!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Snakey
I'll be 40 before I've paid off the current car!

That 6.0 V12 is just the thing for a wine trip across France....
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Ah, the 6.0 face lifted car. Dave at Clarkes was quite lyrical regarding these. A DB7 under the skin by all accounts. He suggested that I go out in one of these later cars to experience quite how different and brilliant they are compared with the older ones like mine. My budget only went to the £7.5k I paid for mine and not the £10k+ those go for. In the flesh he had some absolute beauties there. Most with very low mileage too.

A cruise down to the South of France will be on the agenda, but maybe once the exchange rates improve so I can afford the petrol over there to do it!

Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Snakey
Yeah that one is up for£24.5k - not so much a mid life crisis as a lottery win!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - perleman
Congrats on the purchase! It rocks having an understanding partner! Mine let me buy a Boxster, no regrets there! Enjoy the car - if something major goes, you haven't lost out too badly I guess. That must have some pulling power on the motorway slip road!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
An update on the car and the experience of being irrational:

I can recommend it! (both the car and the irrationality!).

The rear seats would suit a gerbil, and not much else. My daughter just fits with her legs stuck sideways into the neighbouring passengers footwell and with her face pressed against the back of the front seat, but she enjoys it.

The engine is as sweet as a nut with the most relaxed smooth purr of any car I have driven, tied with the sense that it has an engine with a soul. I dare say a new luxury petrol car would be inaudible and smoother still, but I want a bit of character.

It also has a split personallity, because if you put your foot down it knows you mean business and shoots off, suprising the odd Picasso that has the temerity to overtake on a dual carriageway ;o)

One of the suprises is that we have as a family taken more trips out since we got the car than we did in the whole of last year. We did the London to Brighton Jag run last weekend and it was great to see so many people acknowledging how pretty the car is, whilst also acknowledging its performance.

Running costs have been a suprise - lower than expected! Insurance on an agreed-value (£12,000 - a pleasant valuation from the Jag Enthusiasts Club as the car did cost less - I thought I had picked up a good one and this confirmed that I had), sub-5,000 miles policy for me, 38, with no no-claims (as I drive a company car) and having had two small accidents in the past two years in the company car, with my wife also insured to drive has given us a premium of £217. Car tax is £185.

Pootling round the lanes with an occasional high speed jaunt on a dual carriageway gives us 16mpg which I am happy with (can't believe I am saying I am happy with 16mpg! But I was expecting 10.......). As we will only drive it on nice sunny days (year round though) I only expect to stick £70 fuel in every few weeks.

It polishes up beautifully, looks a treat and gains admiring glances wherever it goes.

Also, whilst I do not expect it to gain value, I also also not expecting much in the way of depreciation, although of course I can expect an unpleasant suprise bill no doubt in the future as part of general maintenance, but where in life do we not all get unexpected bills?

So, the conclusion? If it is a mid-life crisis, I think I am going to enjoy it (and if the hair line receeds I will blame it on the convertible!). Recommended.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Marc
Sounds great - thanks for the latest instalment. Lovely car the XJ-S.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - DP
Congrats on what sounds like a beautiful car! Enjoy it.

Cheers
DP
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Altea Ego
One of the other drivers throwing admiring glances your way will be me.

Jealous? Mois? No!
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. Did that sound convincing?
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Paul G1pdc
MID-LIFE CRISIS...
what wrong with one of those....I was still 38 on sunday....now 39!!!
.
whilst I was 38 (26TH APRIL 09)
I took part in the Flora London Marathon.....
NOW THATS A MID-LIFE CRISIS...
.
HAHAHAAH
Paul.
39.
oh wore a pink wig and ran for diabetes UK....
.
quote that I saw on a poster on sunday was....
"the pain lasts a day, memories last a life time"
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
I think I prefer my response to the crisis to yours Paul! Good on you though.

Have you thought that the damage done to your joints will last a lifetime too?

I suppose you could argue I am more likely to get deep vein thrombosis sat on my backside in a car, but hey, I'm not the one wearing a pink wig! :0)
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Oh, and in tribute to the briliantly named J Bonington Jagworth who contributes on here, I have called the car 'Jagsworth'. Wife hates it but I think it suits him.

All our cars have names in our house - Finlay (the 5 series Touring) because of the fin aerial on the roof, and Alfie the Almera, preceeded by Vinnie (the Volvo S60), Fast Freddie (the Fiesta), Essie (the Escort), Capt. Cav (the Cavalier), Monty (the Mondeo), etc.

Perhaps it is not a midlife crisis, and I am just losing my marbles in general?
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - ForumNeedsModerating
It sounds great fun! You really can't put a value (or rather cost..) on happy family days out and it sounds like your young 'un get the Jag 'thing' as well - despite the rather bijou back seat accommodation!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - mike hannon
Lucky you, SFD - glad you and the XJS have got on so well together.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - 1066
makes an xj12 look nice now if you are happy with the reliability.
might be temped as the v12 sounds great
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - mike hannon
Hello again SFD. I've now bought mine. :-)
I've just got too fed up with bankers and stockbrokers wasting my money so I'll do it for myself...
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - William Stevenson
This car is worthless old wreckage. Almost any other car would be better for the primary purpose of going to somewhere, getting out of the car and doing something.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Altea Ego
Almost any other car would be better for the
primary purpose of going to somewhere getting out of the car and doing something.


Not when the primary purpose is going to somewhere with a degree of pleasure, pride and satisfaction. The getting out of the car and doing something on arrival is an irrelevance.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Well said AE. If it was just a mode of transport I would use my wifes Almera or my 5 series. That is not the point.

It is hood down fun with a bit of poke for those (occasional) sunny days out.

I went to Eastbourne on sunday with my daughter, just the two of us for a trip to the ice cream parlour after a cruise along the sea front. Sun shinning, people smilling, happy days.

Mike!! Well done!! Welcome to the fold. What have you got (engine? year? Model?) Have you had a Jag before? Be great to hear more about it.

I recommend joining the Jaguar Enthusisasts Club. I am just starting to find out all the great days out they organise should that float your boat. Helpful guidance too with recommendations of affordable experts for the bits and bobs that no-doubt we may both need looking at it time. Got me a good dicount on the insurance too.

Interestingly 'Wheeler Dealers' on TV are featuring an XJS next Tuesday in two 1/2 hour back to back programs, although it is the coupe rather than the convertible.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - mike hannon
It's a '95 6 litre convertible, one of the last I guess. I thought 'if you're going to have one you might as well go for the big time'. I hope to return briefly to the UK next week to pick it up.
Last Jaguar I had was a Mk II/Daimler V8 - so I know very well you have to love them.
There's a SW France branch of the JEC in operation now as well - I know because I made a friend here a few years ago who has a Daimler XJ coupe, so all the contacts are there.
Being the eternal pessimist, I believe that if the whole project goes belly-up, it still won't amount to as much as Alliance and Leicester, Barclays and Alistair Darling have cost me in the past 12 months!
Now getting impatient - It has a personal plate that has to be transferred to the guy's new XK (which doesn't have a big enough boot for his golf clubs) and the DVLA is dragging its heels.
What channel is 'Wheeler Dealers' on? By coincidence, I now have free to air satellite here as well. Otherwise my sons in the UK can DVD it for me.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Hi Mike,

One of the very last then. I'm the jealous one now! Are you buying it from Clarkes?

www.discoverychannel.co.uk/web/wheeler-dealers/

It is focussing on a 1989 coupe though and therefore is a few country miles away from your car.

Yours will be effectively a DB7 under the XJS skin and will have much less scuttle-shake than mine and a nicer fascia / seats and switchgear. As they were 'getting on a bit' toward the end of the XJS's life sales were low and this means you have a relatively rare car, but what a beauty.

At the end of the day what would be likely to go wrong? A car that has had every gremlin and design fault ironed out over 20 odd years with a proven engine.

I think you will love every minute and for sure you will be the envy of our gallic friends.

I wish you luck with the DVLA. Expecting a Government agency to be efficient and care about the general public that pay for them to exist is sadly wishful thinking.....

I look forward to hearing an update once you have collected the car. I assume you will drive it back to France? What a fantastic trip that should be. Well done!
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - mike hannon
Thanks for that. It isn't coming from Clarkes but I expect they will get to service it next summer.
In the meantime, I now have bronchitis (according to the medecin) so I might not get to the pick-up next week, meaning I have to wait till mid-June. Drat. I felt so bad I had to go to the doctor but was a bit worried he would bang me up as a swine flu suspect! But I've got the hood cleaning kit, leather care kit, etc, etc, bought in the UK to look at for now...
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Ah, sorry to hear the bad news and I wish you a speedy recovery.

Interestingly I got (eventually) a quote from Clarkes to do some work, but it took ages to get the quote, when it finally arrived (3 weeks after it was requested and after a reminder or two from us) it did not cover all the work we had discussed, and included some things we had been told it would not need, and when asked to update it we got no reply. They could not even tell me if it included VAT or not. It is all a bit too vague for me and did not fill me with much confidence.

I have been advised by a few people at the local JEC meet that there are a couple of Jag specialists nearby (one in Uckfield) who may be better placed to help me, so I will get a quote from them for the 'bits & bobs' I want to get done. I will let you know how I get on in due course. Maybe I will end up back at Clarkes, we shall see.....

I used the Autoglym hood cleaning kit which did a great job on the (black) hood. Unfortunately I also decided to use it on the tonneau cover (which didn't really need it, but whilst I was there...........) and this has left a couple of patchy stains. Unless yours really needs it I would leave well alone.....

I bought loads of old magazine articles, parts books, history books all dedicated to the XJS on ebay. Some under XJ-S (the moniker before approx 1991) and some under XJS (no hyphen) and there is some cross-over between what is offered. You might want to investigate so you can do some research before you get the car.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - mike hannon
Hmm. I have a childhood friend down in Somerset who has been a Jaguar specialist for decades - Classic Motors, Milverton, near Taunton, who used to look after my Daimler and Lancia - so maybe he will get the job next summer. He always told me not to be afraid of the V12!
I've downloaded a 700 page book on the XJS - known as 'the book' from Jaglovers.com.
It's a pdf file.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Slightlyfatdirector
Wheeler Dealers featuring an XJS 3.6 coupe tonight on Discovery for anyone interested.

As it's a coupe should be (relatively) cheap and cheerful.
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Pugugly
Brilliant programme especially when the dealer said "loads of pedigree" so has my dog !
Irrational XJS purchase. Mid-life crisis already? - Pugugly
Old MB has filled out a bit hasn't he !