"opinions on the best diesel for under £5000"
If that didn't work, I can't imagine what would. I hesitate to suggest Horlicks...
Edited by J Bonington Jagworth on 06/11/2007 at 12:29
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I have heard that milky drinks can be of benefit but unfortunately I don?t drink milk.
TB was rife when I was growing up and as such my mother wouldn?t touch it and I never developed a taste for it. I have tried it once or twice in later life but the idea of where it comes from has always left me feeling decidedly queasy.
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I believe it's the fat in milk that is supposed to make you sleepy. A piece of toast and butter might have the same effect. Trouble with that sort of thing though is that it can start to affect your weight. But you could give it a try.
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When I am tired I can be asleep in seconds after lying down. But go to bed after being very brain active, at 1 or 2 am (I often do), and it can be a problem.
My solution, which works very well for me, is to have a selection of what I call sleepy music --- soft music with no startlingly loud bits to jar me awake. Then put those pieces on an mp3 player that switches off after 30 minutes -- I rarely hear more that the first 10. Then use small headphones with the sound only just loud enough to hear.
Ideally you will have several half hour 'albums' of soft music that you can switch around and change frequently.
ASDA have some excellent small headband earphones, sometimes called ROSS and sometimes Magnavox, on a red and grey card, for the princely sum of (don't laugh, they really do sound quite good) 97p! The foam covered earpieces are only about one and a half inches diameter.
You sometimes wake up with a bit of ear-ache from lying on a 'phone, but that is not really a problem.
A player that switches off after playing is the Sandisk m240 (1 GB ). They are about £20 and very good for doing this job. Make sure the bottom right area of the display is blank (as set by the 'Repeat AB' tab) and then it will switch off at the end of playing.
The next use level up is to assemble your music into several albums, each one playing for about half an hour, so that you can choose to play by the album name. But that requires a fair amount of effort involving track header editing as, otherwise, the album names shown are the original ones and will be rather small albums if you have chosen only a couple of tunes from each of several CD's.
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I do like the idea of using music to put me to sleep but I?m afraid that once I take the old hearing aid out I become oblivious to almost anything. When I say anything I can usually hear a mild sensation of water crashing against rocks and a strimmer buzzing away in the background. Sadly it?s the tinnitus.
I do like listening to a spot of Wagner when the neighbours are on holiday but in recent years they haven't been all that venturesome and the old LPs have remained stuck in their sleeves :o(
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That thing that you haven't done since 1992 always sends me to sleep.
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Before, during or afterwards?
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Good for you BigBadDave. But tell me, doesn?t it ever wake the missus??
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It might if she were there
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visit www.wiganinmind.com - you'll have to register WN1 2NN will do you if you need a wigan postcode [it's the local infirmary ;-)]
and click on 'sleepless nights' - then information + tips and there a number of documents you can download
The one I find most useful is 'quick tips 1 - the yawn factor' an excercise involving contracting and relaxing various limbs in sequence - if you can do that properly and you aren't yawning by the end of it, you need help !
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Try going for a walk before you turn in - clears your mind and makes you a little tired.
Don't lie there fighting the insomnia, get up read a book till you feel a bit sleepy again, try again, repeat if neccessary. You will get to sleep.
Don't try counting sheep but picturing a waterfall isn't a bad way to empty your mind.
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"picturing a waterfall isn't a bad way to empty your mind" ............... although you'll need to empty your bladder first!
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LOL RTB!
But the point about exercise is good. If I am physically tired sleep comes relatively easily. When I suffer from insomnia - other people can sometimes occupy the mind tiresomely - I am usually aware that I haven't taken a proper walk that day. BN doesn't have an obesity problem apparently, but one gets more sedentary as one gets older.
They had compulsory sport when I was at school, thank goodness, but it didn't really take in my case. I haven't been what you would call more or less fit for about fifty years, although I have never been colossal either.
Edited by Lud on 06/11/2007 at 16:15
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Do you play golf? I do (tho' only about once a year) and find the best way to fall asleep is to play a mental round - I rarely get past the fourth. Make of that what you will!
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Dont go straight to bed from being on the computer. Surfing the net makes your brain active, and to then expect it to shut down immediately and let you sleep is a big ask.
I sometimes have trouble sleeping, and the official advice is not to read in bed, for the reasons above, but it works for me.
The advice about going for a walk before bed is good.
What also works for me is two things, both from Boots.
One is sleep easy pillow mist. It contains peppermint and nutmeg and I swear it is some kind of magic potion as it never fails. It comes in a glass bottle like a perfume bottle and the liquid is pink.
The other comes in a small tin and is from the people who make Badger Balm. It's called Sleep Balm, and contains lavendar and some other things that I can't read off the tin because mine is a bit old. Put a dot on your temple before bed and you'll be asleep in no time.
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PG may have a point about the scents too. A friend once tried to market small pillows stuffed with sleep-inducing herbs. Didn't succeed, but is an intelligent person who said the herbs worked. What's it called? Aromatherapy, that's it. Worth a try I would say, and probably less bad for you than pigging out on fat.
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Bit of exercise like a gentle walk, warm soak in the bath with lavender oil and off to bed. Banana is supposed to be good to keep by the bed to eat if unable to sleep for those adverse to milky drink, and water in case you are a little dehydrated.
Husband used to take Nytol which he found useful.
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Well, Pologirl I think that I might give that a try. About the only sense that I have left that still seems to be in perfect working order is the old hooter, for obvious reasons. :o)
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PG - we are big hairy fat blokes who drink too much. We dont do "pink liquids"
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Has anyone mentioned alcohol yet? I normally have no trouble getting to sleep, but then I'm not 90 (yet). When I was seven, I went to stay with a rather eccentric family who gave all their children a glass of port before bed. I was included in this scheme and was rather cross to have to go home. It still works for me when necessary, sometimes even when not necessary...
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gave all their children a glass of port before bed
what a well adjusted family. To remove you from their care was surely cruelty. I would have appealed to RSPCC
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Can't sleep? Well, have a few pints or so during the evening. Too much? Drink a couple of "Strong Suffolk" of "Young's Special London Ale". What? *Still* too much?? A half of wine, or a good mug of Madeira, sherry, or something like that. Sweet dreams!
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I'm told the problem with alcohol is that while it gets you to sleep, people tend to wake up again in the early hours, so it just shifts the problem.
I'm with PG, when my wife can't sleep she puts lavander oil on her pillow. It works for her, I don't like it as it works too well on me and I have trouble waking up!
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Is BigNose real?
He is 90 years old, suffers from extremely high blood pressure, has been prescribed drugs for a failing heart, last had nookie in 1992, and holds the record for the oldest silver surfer on the internet anywhere. No wonder he cannot sleep.
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My wife regularly surfs the net and she is the same age as me!
I became interested in computers when my local library held a series of classes for ?silver surfers? about seven years ago. I have found that this knowledge has enriched my life greatly. There are several members of my church group who are Internet savvy and I don?t know why you should find it surprising that the older generation are able to point and click with the best of them. It ain?t rocket science me old china :o)
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>Is BigNose real?
I am starting to wonder but am ploughing on with being nice just in case!
If you're 90, you don't need as much sleep as before, and it's perfectly normal to need a nap during the day!
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>>>If you're 90, you don't need as much sleep as before, and it's perfectly normal to need >>>a nap during the day!
A bit like being 60 then.
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Clk Sec
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When I was a toddler and wouldn't sleep, my dad used to drive me around the block in the car a couple of times and I sometimes use the same trick on my own kids. Two miles and they're out like a light.
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Two miles and they're out like a light.
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>.what? and let them walk back?that should "tyre" (motoring link even though not needed) them out ;-)
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I still have a tot of Laphroaig in the early evening but I find that my tolerance for alcohol is not what it once was. In my youth I could drink an Irish navvy under the table but nowadays I?m likely to burst into tears after a couple of Sherries. :o(
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AHA! there's the problem - Laphroaig - possibly the most evil tasting liquid ever invented! Switch to a more palatable Highland malt and all will be solved. Even a shot of 'Asda's own' would be better... :))))
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You could be on a sticky wicket here (do the Scotch play cricket?).
Nothing wrong with any Islays, although I once had a curious one labelled Lochindaal. There's never been a distillery there to my knowledge, I understand it's a bonded store for several distilleries, perhaps someone had a run they didn't care to own up to.
I've an unopened bottle of Port Ellen, my favourite, could never understand why it closed. It costs a fortune now.
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AHA! there's the problem - Laphroaig - possibly the most evil tasting liquid ever invented! Switch to a more palatable Highland malt and all will be solved. Even a shot of 'Asda's own' would be better... :))))
>>>>>>>>>> totally agree, i wouldnt clean my brake parts in that evil tasting heavily peated mixture.knokando is very nice or even a nice glass of bells if you are feeling tight
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or even a nice glass of bells if you are feeling tight
At the risk of getting hoots of derision I think 'Queen Margot' (available from Lidl) is very palateable stuff and only about £7.50 a bottle.
To me it tastes better than Bells, Teachers and the like. (But I dont claim to know anything about whisky, had a bad experience on it when I was 19 and didn't touch it again for years!).
My Dad has a cabinet full of single malts and he thinks Queen Margot is well worth buying if all you are going to do is put a mixer in it..
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a mixer? how very dare you ;-O
I tried a bottle of liddles finest a few years ago ,wasnt impressed to be honest
sainsburys seems alright though at about a "£10
not over keen on asda"s but a few years since i tried it
i still want that 50 year old malt at £750 if anyone fancies buying it for me (knokando distillary shop)
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I've always listened to Radio 4 at bedtime, great as long as it's something soporific and newsy. Probably the best is the shipping forecast, if it's that late.
Otherwise, as has been mentioned, lavender, milky drinks, baths & exercise are all good. Try not to have the room too warm. Don't go to bed until you're actually tired.
HTH,
Alex.
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Dr Alex Mears
Volvo 940S estate 1993
Maxda MX5 1.8iS 1997
Yamaha RD350 YPVS 1992
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An old chap I knew years ago used to enjoy a few drams of Hankey Bannister before retiring to bed and a good night?s sleep.
Clk Sec
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I tried a bottle of liddles finest a few years ago wasnt impressed
Lidl's "Ben Bracken" is apparently made by Clydesdale (Whyte & Mackay) and is Tamnavulin 12y.o. It's good, & a bargain.
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(Whyte & Mackay)
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>>>>>>> that solves it then as i find this brand too watery
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(Whyte & Mackay) > >>>>>>> that solves it then as i find this brand too watery
W&M is not a brand, it's a company. I take it you don't like Glenlivet and similar Speysiders?
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Whisky doesn't really agree with me any more but I used to find that single malts whose taste I liked did less harm than blended brands other than JW black and Dimple Haig (introduced to me in an African capital by the ambassador of a prominent Muslim country. He adored the stuff).
Like bell boy I don't really care for those very dry and sour-faced peaty malts, some of which are positively medicinal-tasting. Fortunately there are hundreds of much more genial brews available. I quite like The Macallan although some people think it a bit syrupy. They ought to try Southern Comfort, no better guarantee of a sleepless dyspeptic night.
Edited by Lud on 07/11/2007 at 16:19
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Agree with Lud, Macallan is excellent. I'm also rather partial to an Islay whisky, and find ADSA's generic brand quite nice. However, you do have to be fairly drunk first to enjoy it.
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