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It struck me that the boy who had his alcohol confiscated because he was taking it down to the beach was accused of potentially supplying it to under age drinkers.
I'm not sure what the problem is here. It's illegal to sell alcohol to under 18s and illegal to buy if you are under 18, or for an over 18 to buy a drink in a bar for an under 18. But it's not illegal to give alcohol to an under 18, even in a public place, so what was the problem even if OP's boy were to share the booze with kids?
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But it's not illegal to give alcohol to an under 18 even in a public place so what was the problem even if OP's boy were to share the booze with kids?
Are you sure? Just did a quick google and found a few cases of people being given an £80 fixed penalty notice for "supplying alcohol to under-aged people".
(Just asking by the way, not saying you are wrong, I don't know the answer myself, although I'll admit I've always assumed it to be illegal outside of the home)
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Should have been more clear - although it wasn't specified that the people in question did not, there was no indication that they were charging for the alcohol. It definitely wasn't anyone working in a shop.
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>>(Just asking by the way, not saying you are wrong)
Well, I might be, which is why I ask the question. If it is, that's the last time I pass my hipflask to a minor, or fill their glass at a wedding. And if it is, then what is the criterion?
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Interesting replies, many thanks. Son is drafting a letter to make his feeling known to the authorities - see what reply he gets.
With the link from Pugugly (thanks) as a starting point they were not entitled to demand ID, but only his name and address if they had good reason to suspect criminal behaviour.
Speaking to other parents we find that it is most unusual for them to confiscate the alcohol in this way - usually they tip it out infront of the kids and give them back the containers. It does show that we have a situation now where the burden of proof is no longer on the authorities - "guilty m'lud, cos I think so."
As far as I can find out, although you cannot buy alcohol until you are 18, you can be bought wine/cider/beer in licensed premises if you are having a meal (not a pkt crisps!) and you can give a child over the age of 5 (yes, 5) alcohol not in licensed premises. Much as it was when we ran a hotel several moons ago.
Finally, in reply to one post, son is not a Rock type - just local comp. I am afraid - and is very funny/philosophical when very very drunk and quick to sober (well, act that way) if there is trouble according to his friends and some of their parents, whether it is breaking up a brawl, removing gate-crashers or helping someone who has really over indulged. There are the odd lads who are not 'lager louts' when in their cups. ;~)
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Looking at booking Summer 2008 holiday in South of France. Options are driving from here (Glasgow) as we have done before, or fly RyanAir from
Prestwick to Marseilles and hire a car.
However Ryanair schedules don't go that far in advance, any idea how long their schedules are for, do they release summer schedules at a certain time etc etc?
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2005 Skoda Fabia vrS
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It's a little early yet. Most low cost airlines won't release summer dates until September/October, depending on destination - they will be sorting our schedules, airport slots etc at the moment. Sign up for e-mail alerts with the airlines. Also check prices against full service airlines - "low cost" airlines are getting very inventive at charging for extras.
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Ryan Air baggage rules are awfully restrictive. Fine for a weekend small bag in the cabin, but i would balk at taking wife and kids away for two weeks on a ryan air plane.
Baggage
'Checked Baggage' is any item accepted for carriage in the aircraft hold, including but not limited to suitcases, baby buggies, infant travel cots, car seats, rucksacks, tents and any mobility equipment such as, wheelchairs, scooters and walking frames. Large sports equipment and musical instruments are subject to separate charges and restrictions - see below.
A Baggage Fee is charged for the carriage of each item of Checked Baggage. The Baggage Fee may be prepaid at the current discounted rate of ?6.00/£5.00 per item of baggage/per one way flight when making your reservation. If the Baggage Fee is paid after you have made your booking either at the airport, or through a Ryanair call centre, at the full rate per item of baggage/per one way flight is charged. Baby buggies, wheelchairs, scooters and walking frames are carried free of charge
Passenger may purchase up to 5 items of baggage per person. Please Note: That the total Checked Baggage Allowance per person is 15kg irrespective of the number of items of baggage purchased per person. There is no baggage allowance for infants, although a pram/buggy will be carried free of charge.
Any passenger checking in baggage exceeding the 15kg checked baggage allowance per person will be charged an excess baggage fee currently at a rate of £5.50/?8 per kilo (or local currency equivalent).
Passengers may not use the unused checked baggage allowance of other passengers. No pooling/sharing of the checked baggage allowance is permitted, even within a party travelling on the same Confirmation Number.
One item of hand baggage per person, weighing no more than 10kg and with dimensions of less than 55cm x 40cm x 20cm, may be carried into the aircraft cabin (restrictions apply from certain countries) - click here for details.
For health and safety reasons Ryanair does not accept for carriage any individual item exceeding 32 kilos or with combined dimensions of more than 81cms (height), 119cms (width) and 119cms (depth). This weight limit does not apply to mobility equipment.
See paragraph below headed 'Prohibited Articles' for items not permitted in the cabin and/or aircraft hold.
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When you work out how much it will cost to take bags for two weeks holiday Ryanair (and other similar "low cost" airlines") will be a lot more expensive. And...
- Pay by credit card and it's a fee of £2 per person each way apparently (so not the 1.5% credit card charge then) so for a family of 4 that's an extra £16
- From 20th Sept you will pay £2 per person each way to check in at the airport. You can only check in luggage to the hold at the airport, so for a family of 4 that again is an extra £16
It all adds up....
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It's also not possible to check in on-line if you have an infant (under 2) who is to sit on a parent's knee - so more fees. Only certain rows of some aircraft have an extra oxygen mask for the infant and only the checking in agent knows which ones. The agent we had in Menorca didn't and booked us in a row which didn't have one.
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in agent knows which ones. The agent we had in Menorca didn't and booked us in a row which didn't have one.
Did that not break CAA regulations? if so they could be in deep doo doo
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Booking us in the wrong seat didn't, but letting us fly would have. Fortunately there were four of us in a 3-3 seating pattern. 3 in one row and I was in the aisle seat in the opposite row so I had daughter!
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Thanks for the answers guys, I agree its very hard to work out an ACTUAL cost with Ryanair!
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2005 Skoda Fabia vrS
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Also, remember to ccount for the cost (both money and time) of getting from the airfield Ryanair leave you in to the town you actually want to end up in! But its worth doing the sums...
Two examples:
Shannon-Paris long weekend. £100 round trip with Aer Lingus, 90 minutes flying time vs £100 round trip Shannon-Dublin-Beauvais-Paris but a day's travel both ways! (Only made that mistake once!)
Shannon-Aberdeen, 1 week trip. ?168 Shannon-Edinburgh with Ryanair plus hire of a Fiesta for the week to get to - and travel around - Aberdeen vs. ?100 Shannon-Heathrow plus £212 Heathrow-Aberdeen shuttle.
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can I put a % sign into the text
Can't find it on any of the keys - can find loads od essential stuff like theta,delta, pi, sigma but nothing as useful as %
Cant find any useful reference in the manual
can't find any useful reference on the web site
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I have a Sony mobile - an older T610. In the text input screen click the button under 'more' and a menu should appear. Choose "add symbol".
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hahaa ! correct ;-)
thank you
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The hot water feed pipe/elbow to the shower mixer is badly scaled with lime, whereas the cold feed is clean. What can I use to remove the lime?
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Lemon juice or vinegar diluted a bit with water. Any mild acid will do. Or pay a few quid for proprietry limescale removers, a whole host available at your nearest supermarket.
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Soak some cotton wool in your choice of lemon juice, diluted citric acid crystals, or vinegar, wrap the cotton wool aroudn the pipe and tape/bandage it in place for a few hours. Remove, rinse off, job done.
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Viakal is a good such proprietry product. (And Lidl do an own brand one which comes in very similar containers.)
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The product called Limelight or Limelite.
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Calgon - that you put in Washing machines is pretty good, being quite a "glutinous" liquid it tends to "stick" around for a while rather than dribble off or evaporate.
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Knotted wire cup brush in an angle grinder -
or:
Proprietary limescale remover.
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Am going there in a couple of weeks. Flights and Car-Hire sorted, but have not found accomodation yet.
Anyone have any suggestions for this area? 'Usual' internet searches (via Google / tripadvisor / Expedia etc) have not yielded anything great. My hunch is that the hotels in the towns are too small to have websites.
A good recommendation or two would be much appreciated - my Dad, who I am travelling with, is keen to stay in Potes, but anywhere in the area would do
Thanks in advance
Jon
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Toured through the area a few years ago. Fantastic scenery and little traffic. Do a google search for "Paradores of Spain". These are some of the best hotels for location.
Mike.
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I was taught that the correct expression was "different from". A large number of people say "different to" and I try not to quibble too much about that variation. However I notice that now "different than" is becoming common. Where did that originate?
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Similar point with "Can I? which should be "May I? if a request.
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Stuartli, that reminds me of one of my primary school teachers (a navigator on Lancs in the war, as he was fond of reminding us). When asked 'Can I go the toilet, sir?' he always relied with 'I don't know, I'm not a doctor'. Some of the children were held at his desk for 10m minutes plus until they they replaced can with may. I'm sure this sort of thing would be regarded as child cruelty these days, but it never did me any harm.
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Funnily enough tonight's Richard and Judy Show featured Diana Rigg in a cafe scene from a Ricky Gervais Extras episode - she refused to return a particular rubber based item which had landed on her head to a youngster until he had said "May I?" rather than "Can I? and, finally, say "Thank You"....:-)
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No idea where "different than" originated, but I must admit I tend to say "different to". The grammatical error which annoys me the most is usually heard on the news: "The government are...". Government = singular noun. Therefore correct sentence = "The government is...". That irritates me almost as much as "I could of done"....since when has "of" been the first person singular form of the verb "to have"?
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From, and only from.
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Please don't start me off - I might mention that I am bored WITH or BY (not "of") reading threads about independAnts (Independents)!
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No idea where "different than" originated
Sounds American to me. The cousins often have a very arbitrary and capricious way with conjunctions.
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I was taught that the correct expression was "different from".
Right....
A large number of people say "different to"
Wrong...
I notice that now "different than" is becoming common. Where did that originate?
"A" level English Language lessons, probably.
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Haven't we done all this before? Perhaps I have been around too long!
Similar to
Different from
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Brilliant forum. Very educational.
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I have one of these phones and would be interested to hear if any of you have had the same problem. A week or two ago I took a call on my D900 then when I went to send a text found that the inner screen had gone black with lots of silvery cracks emanating from the bottom right corner. My network provider insisted that it was my fault and classed it as accidental damage, quoting me £65 to fix it. I claimed for a new phone under my insurance at a cost of £25 for the excess, but having browsed some mobile phone review sites I've found that this screen fault appears to be a known fault.
Has anybody successfully challenged their service provider and either had the phone replaced under warranty or got a refund on their insurance excess?
Thanks in advance.
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....or the dreaded myself word - now that's annoying.
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My daughter, her two young children and her husband live in the UK, so it's not easy to research face to face advice to give her, so I am hoping that one of our resident legal eagles can give me some general advice to pass on to her.
The marital relationship is at breaking point for various reasons, but it is the financial implications which concern me.
Their house is solely in HIS name, (allegedly due to a self-certification mortgage and the fact that my daughter was at the time a full time mother to our grandson). The house is currently under offer, with the buyer's survey having been done this week. The sale has been forced due to my son-in-law's financial stupidity, having run up huge credit card debts to support his failing business.
There will be equity from the house, before paying these debts, of around £100K.
Obviously my daughter needs to safeguard the financial position of herself and two young children, but is concerned that the proceeds of sale will disappear into another black hole. At this stage of the house sale a formal caution on the deeds is probably not on - so - can she intervene with the Solicitor handling the sale to ensure that the net proceeds of sale are paid into a joint, two signatures required, account.
I know that banks when agreeing loans secured on property require the spouse's consent - even if not formally on the tile deeds, before drawing up the documentation, but will a solicitor, cuu=rrently acting SOLELY for my son-in law re the sae be bound to do anything at all?
Advice VERY gratefully received.
PS My daughter has received general advice as to her rights but half a zero pot of money is zero!
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The key is the children. Under the latest childrens act (whos name escapes me) both guardians have to agree to sell the house and to prove the children will have a roof over their head. Failure to provide such a guarantee can block the house sale.
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Your daughter is in a very awkward situation, as any action on her part to secure her share may well precipitate her husband to move the £100k even further out of her reach. She really needs to take high quality advice from a specialist who can see the full details to ensure that she gets accurate advice.
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Tell your daughter to arrange an appointment with a solicitor as soon as possible if there's going to be a divorce.
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www.insidedivorce.com
www.divorceaid.co.uk
Lots of advice on the sites above. I don't think I would advise anyone to use a solicitor specialising in property law to act for them on a family matter. Your daughter would be better off getting her own advice, and I think there are solicitors who will give advice on family law at a reduced cost/free, but I couldn't find the link I was looking for. If I do, I'll come back.
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I agree with local yokel that the situation looks difficult. Of course you have to have a solicitor for a divorce but even here it is much better if the arrangements are worked out by the parties in a civilised manner. Adversarial and gruelling divorces are bad all round, and of course work out more expensive too. The same applies to litigation over property. Unfortunately though decent behaviour is far from universal. All depends who you are dealing with.
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OK - it's my turn to moan about misuse of the English language.
It's my very simple understanding that to book something means I need to carry out some sort of advance action to secure a seat on plane, obtain tickets for a show etc.
I now very frequently see and hear the term "pre-book".
What on earth does this mean? Does pre-booking give me an advantage over merely booking something?
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>>Does pre-booking give me an advantage over merely booking
I don't know. A look in the dictionary gives v tr engage (a seat etc) in advance; make a reservation of.
The problem is, in English, a booking clerk is the man you buy your train ticket from - for immediate travel. You book in to a hotel (where you have previously booked a room). So I can see the opportunity for confusion. And loathsome as it is, pre-booking makes a distinction.
I am irritated by the invitation to pay for free (sic) text messages - see below.
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Hi
I help out on a weekly local community radio show.
One job I do is to send a reminder text a mobile phone (pay as you go sim used only for this radio show) weekly to a list of subscribers.
The list at present is about 65 - 70 people.
Any listners can then text in on this phone for comments/questions for the show.
I am trying to minimise costs for the show - what would be the cheapest way of texting. We are currently paying £15 a month for 1000 free text messages with Orage Pay as you Go.
Does anyone know of free online texting service or something that will cut costs at present.
I have though of taking out one of these cheap contracts - but as don't really want to go through a money back offer.
Any ideas?
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You can get 300 free texts or £10 with O2.
No such thing as free texting as there is at least 3p in charges to be borne by the sending side. You could buy text messaging online and get a sponsor to cover the cost in return for a very short message, but for that volume you'll pay 10p/message.
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They are in fact free Mapmaker, as the £10 can be used on call charges, or more text messages.
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£15 for 1000 texts sounds fairly cheap to me. i.e. 1.5p/text. The problem with the online free text services is they will add their advert to the message. And I do not think listeners could reply to the text message to get through to you.
For convenience I sometimes use Skype to text. I've set it up to send texts as if from my mobile so people can reply direct to me. But it's about ?0.08 per text (about 5.5p) which is a lot more than you are paying.
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Famiglia Barchetta is moving to a new flat. The flat needs a kitchen.
The companies supplying and fitting kitchens here appear to make their money on the fitted appliances. Typically they want ?1000 - ?1200 just for our preferred combo of (basic) electric oven and 4 burner gas hob.
Similar appliances are available in the IKEA catalogue for much, much less cash. A 5-burner gas hob is ?259, and a cooker ?300. These appear to be made by Whirlpool.
Question is this - are fitted ovens a standard width and fitting? Would the IKEA standard oven fit in, say, an Alno carcass without the use of a ´Cotswolds screwdriver´?
We can´t really have an IKEA kitchen as the size of units we need are not available in their range, unfortunately.
TIA for any advice
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>Question is this - are fitted ovens a standard width and fitting? Would the IKEA standard oven fit in, say, an Alno carcass without the use of a ´Cotswolds screwdriver´?
yes, they are standard, to fit in a 60 wide, 60 deep slot
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I was using cm!
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whats that in furlongs ?
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whats that in furlongs ?
about 0.003
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I think you might mean 600mm x 600mm - this is the standard for appliances of most types (600mm).
Oh no its not.
there are two standard sizes floating and eurpe and the UK W550mm x D600mm and W600mm x D600mm
If you go slimlne there is another - W450mm x D600mm
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May be one for PU.
Customer runs a pub. Has employed a Thai lass on 6 months contract. Apparently this is quite normal as she is learning English as well as working, and is already more fluent than half of the locals!! however, the girl has lost her Passport and has been told that she HAS to go to the Thai Embassy to sort it. Is there no other way? If this is to get another photo' can she not have it done in town here and certified by a Solicitor as a true likeness? TIA
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www.thaiembassy.org.uk has it all - I think.
It seems she has to dress properly, get a police report and then go to the embassy where her photo will be taken.
What a good idea, why don't we do that?
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She has reported it to the local boys, but as with all hard working game playing people we all seem to be inconvenienced by bureacracy when an ID by a Solicitor would do in my book.
MD
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Sounds and obvious comment but is it really lost? When did she last have it? Has it been stolen.
If I was overseas and in similar circumstances with a lost passport I would expect to have to use the UK embassy there. So why not her? My brother's first full UK passport was issued via Dusseldof! Interesting to have a UK passport issued by German embassy. Was okay on the Czech border in 1990.
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If I was overseas and in similar circumstances with a lost passport
>>I would expect to have to use the UK embassy there.
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..and to help the process along I have a scanned copy of the relevant pages of my passport that I keep in a safe place when travelling plus an email copy so I should be able to retrieve that almost anywhere.
In the old days I had an A4 size image of my passport so that the image was still readable even when sent by a poor fax facility.
To use the familiar phrase "every little helps"
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She has a copy but unless last night brought any new info' then they still expect her to go to London from Devon. Seems like madness to me.
Regards.....MD
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Hi. I'm looking to buy a new 19" tv. There is so many to choose from now. They seem to range from about £200-£350.
What I was wondering are all the cheaper makes as good as some of the named brands or is it still the case you get what you pay for?
For example: Argos, comet, currys, asda etc do thier own one for around the 200 mark. With these you get hd ready and freeview built in. For about another £30-£50 you can have a dvd player built in too.
Or do I pay £300+ for a brand name with no dvd, freeview or hd ready.
Are these comanys own brands (cheaper tv's) still good or do you get what you pay for and the thing brakes in 12 months time?
Thanks for any help.
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You get what you pay for in the quality of display and reliability from the big names.
However, you should/can certainly get a top brand name for around the £300 you quote AND with Freeview and HD ready included. For instance:
tinyurl.com/2mctxd (from one of the UK's best retailers)
tinyurl.com/2osyxn (Humaxs, make some excellent TVs and the famous F2 FOX-T set top box).
However, you might find that you get better value by upping the screen size slightly - the cost increase isn't all that much. A good example is the Humax 23in:
tinyurl.com/2rrz4w
I don't think you'll find many top brand models having DVD players included - it's normally a gimmick by lesser manufacturers to attract buyers.
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I recently acquired a new Nokia 6300 mobile phone, yes I like it, but various people have complained that the sound quality when using my Jabra BT250v Bluetooth earpiece is poor.
If I switch back to my trusy Nokia 6230i, the sound is excellent!
Any ideas why this might be please?
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Well known complaint on Nokia phones using Sybian software. The bluetooth system in Nokia is not fully compatible with non-Nokia bluetooth devices, so you get echoes at the other end and other problems. Nokia are fully aware of the situation, but obviously refuse to do anything about it as they want people to buy Nokia branded devices.
I have a Parrot in my car and I switched back from a Nokia E50 to the 6230i for this reason.
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Unless I am mistaken, neither the Nokia 6300 or 6230i use the Symbian operating system?
The curious thing, is that the older phone - the 6230i gives better reception than the newer phone.
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Well, I know several people with 6300s who all report the same problems as I had with the E50.
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Unless I am mistaken neither the Nokia 6300 or 6230i use the Symbian operating system?
Correct, they are both Series 40; so presumably the issue is wider than Symbian Nokias.
Caution, link with high geek content:-
www.forum.nokia.com/devices/matrix_s40_1.html
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I'm also going back to the future due to useless Nokia phones.
After recently being upgraded from a lowly Nokia 1100 to a 2610 (for no reason other than that's what the contract says happens every two years) I have reclaimed my 1100 from the mobile phone recyling box in the office and more colleagues are doing the same.
The 2610 is one of the worst mobiles I have used. Why Nokia put a tinted screen on a mobile I have no idea. It can't be read on sunny days and when you do a lot of work outside this is a bit of a problem. The navigator button is useless and the software architecture is far from user friendly. Maybe it's a sign of old age that I prefer a phone with a few buttons and not loads of useless gimmicks!!
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Yep if you just want a phone that makes phone calls and has good battery life then the 1100 is hard to beat.
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Hi, Wonderful if any of you super-knowledgeable people can help. We have a Crittal external door, installed in 1959, which we cannot open. The key will come out, but will not turn. Have tried copious amounts of WD40 with no result. Is this a job for a locksmith or are we going to have to replace the whole unit?
It isn't a vital door as it is to our bedroom but I do miss being able to step into the garden on a fine morning - and it is, of course, a good fire escape if needed. Many thanks. D
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Has the door opened ok previously? If not its probably a rusty lock - If it has opened before the levers could have gone inside the lock
A locksmith will be required to get the door open. They dont come cheap on a call out! so check for charges first and agree a price. He may damage the door in getting it open. So if there is no architectural or consent* reasons why a critial door can ot be replaced, then consider getting a new door and frame.
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A long shot, but are you sure it is locked? Rather than just painted/rusted up - try turning the key in the opposite direction.
If you can buy a replacement lock, you could try drilling it out. You're as likely to damage the door as a locksmith, like AE said.
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Spray some 3-in-one into it, and use gentle mechanical persuasion (tap the lock with a small block of timber or similar, or small hammer), and jiggle it about. If it won't open, a locksmith's fee (use a proper one, not a key-cutter) may be far cheaper than a new door!
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Is the key significantly wornand if so have you tried the spare key?
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Thanks so far.... door did open until two years ago. Took old key out when it wouldn't open and tried spare incase it was that. WD40 didn't help and husband just told me he now cannot remove the spare key .... :~( More WD40 now then think I might try the 'tap' with hammer method tomorrow so the dogs hullabaloo does not upset the neighbours!
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Our Panasonic Quintrix TX-29 television has stopped working.
It´s only 18 months old.
When you turn it on, the red standby LED flashes arrhythmically, a relay clicks on somewhere in the set, but no picture appears.
We are trying the ´leave it switched off for 30 minutes´ trick.
Any of you clever technicians got any ideas?
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www.avforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/f-42-p-6...l
This might help you....
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Thanks Pug, I´ve posted the question on that forum, with a bit of luck it´ll get a response.
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Leave it uplugged for an hour. However i think its cream crackered. The symptoms are those of an internal power supply shutting down on startup due to too much current draw. Indicates a serious issue.
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But might be fixable, if it needs fixing.
Had a Toshiba 28" widescreen TV with Dolby Digital surround sound. After only 3 years the tube went. New tube was £300. New TV was £350.
Of course LCD/Plasmas expensive back then so the new TV was a CRT. But it was a good deal so has Dolby Digital too.
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Brief update - a quick check of the guarantee revealed the warranty here in Germany is 24 months, not the 12 I had expected. Panasonic tecchie coming on Monday. Happy days
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In my Sony Ericsson Z530i mobile I can set the maximum message length to either "Max available" or "Fit into one message". What's the effect of both of these settings?
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L\'escargot.
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I would say that the latter will stop you from sending a large message as multiple texts (which it normally does automatically if the messga eis too long for one).
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Manual:
www.sonyericsson.com/downloads/Z530i__UG_R2a_AE.pdf
implies that 'max available' is dependent on the network, but presumably longer than can fit in a single message. As multiple message messages (so to speak) are charged for each constituent message, you might want to limit yourself to a single message, hence the choice of settings I guess.
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Doh! I should have read the manual! I've certainly just found that a long message results in a warning that the message is too long when "Fit into one message" is selected. However, if I make the setting "Max available" will the message arrive at the recipients phone as two (or more) separate messages, or will I just be charged as if it had?
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L\'escargot.
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L'escargot, you'll be charged for more than 1 message, but it'll be tacked together by the recipient's phone. The first message is 160 characters, but each subsequent message is only 143 (IIRC), the others are sent as code to inform the phone that the incoming message is to be attached to the previous message.
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Depends on receiver phone. Older phones might receive multiple messages and not put together as one.
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