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LeePower said "I hope it aint the early 4 pin type of Peugeot lockers, They are real fun to get off!"
My step-son has a Pug 306 with what appears to be these 4 pin type locking nuts. Apart from getting someone to drill them off (£80 for the 4 in a nearby tyre place) what other options do we have?
Ta
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In my case, although I bought the car second-hand from a dealer, I traced the previous private owner via the registration document. Looked up name/address/phone number on BT online directory. "Yes, I think I do have something that looks like a kind of socket which we took out of the car before it was sold..." In fact, there were two in a little plastic bag. The guy obviously hadn't a clue why they were important.
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I'm about to get in touch with the owner as you suggest. Phone number ex-directory or not in the BT phone directory at least.
Because two tyres are okay (someone must have swapped fairly recently) I thought maybe the garage we bought from might have had a key. Happens they did but not the right one for these particular nuts. Peugeot themselves not that helpful - there cannot be that many permutations. They would probably prefer to make money from removing the wheels.
Looking like the previous owner, the garage they part-ex'd at (so another place to contact) or failing that the £80 it will cost to get the removed the hard way.
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Well the address for last keeper of vehicle is wrong.... nobody there of that name. They do not even drive. Sounds like last owner not so honest as they acquired the vehicle wilst the current occupier was living there. Hmm.
Left wondering how to make up the equivalent of the right key now that I have one - albeit one that does not fit. Or even how to put something in one of the holes and knock the nut off with a big hammer.
Or.... if you were to cool down (or even heat up) the nut/wheel which would contract or expand first? The wheel nut or the alloy wheel? If it could be loosened could dry some grips on the nut.
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Never had to get any off, but I've had a couple of cars with these on. I don't think a gator grip socket like the theives use would be much good on these, you could either try banging a cheap socket on them and undoing them like that, or maybe use a punch of some sort it one of the holes to tap them round. If they're not too tight you might even get a pair of mole grips on the raised bit in the centre and be able to unscrew them that way.
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best bet is a quick trip round the local scrapyards they are usually quite good in this situation
chris
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best bet is a quick trip round the local scrapyards they are usually quite good in this situation chris
thats actually a good idea, your dealing with somebody who does the job day in day out, ask him to try and keep the damage to a minimum , and dont moan if you do get some small damage because its inevitable,
probably a fiver a wheel would keep him sweet .
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Just a long shot - a probably likely to cause more damage, but have you considered getting someone to weld a 'normal' nut onto the end of the locking nuts? Perhaps a quick 'dab' of weld might be enough.
Graeme
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"best bet is a quick trip round the local scrapyards they are usually quite good in this situation"
Very good suggestion. Will phone a few tomorrow.
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I believe if you go along to Kwik Fit or one of the National Tyre co's they are experts in removing such devices as often people turn up for new tyres etc having left the socket at home.
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These are the views of Robin the Technician with 35 years in the trade. I fix, therefore I am...
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Get an old socket that will just go over the lock nut but you will have to whack it on with a big hammer!
The shock of whacking on should shock it loose a bit then use your strong bar/wheel brace to remove, i have done this loads of times no need to drill! good luck..
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We went to Kwik-Fit and they would not help sort it.
The other local tyre place I sent my son to had mentioned drilling. But when I rang them myself today they said they can get the nut off easily but there is a risk they might scratch the wheel(s) using an "air chisel". The fact it's on an L plate then some scratch to the wheels is largely irrelevant - step-son managed to rip the rubbing strip off the side of the car at the weekend and dent/scratch the paintwork. And the center of the alloy wheel is covered by a plastic cover anyway so a scratch likely to be hidden.
Appreciate all the suggestions, especially the scrap yard one. But it turns out the place I sent him to in the first place could get it done. He was claiming they might "destroy/break" the wheels. They probably said "damage" as in scratch/gouge.
Cheers
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c5 came up with the answer i had to use on a clio last year
the wheels had been on for that long that the thread end of an old wheel stud was the only way in,this was welded with a mig (difficult because of the enclosed space )
then a large cracking bar was used to crack the lockers off
each and every wheel was a pain but i got there
these 4 pin jobbies usually havs a chrome ring round them as well which also hinders the hitting an old socket over the top
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The Peugeot 4 Pin does not have a rotating ring on it only a guide in the centre that is designed to snap off if you try to turn the nut with it.
Edited by Avant on 17/03/2014 at 21:21
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These are some of the easiest (similar to Citroen) and only take 10 minutes to remove all four at www.facebook.com/LockingWheelNutsRemoved
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These are some of the easiest (similar to Citroen) and only take 10 minutes to remove all four at http://lockingwheelnutsremoved.com/
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