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Today I had the pleasure of worshipping at the shrine and some say birthplace of the computer.. I had a good long chat with some of the team who rebuilt Colussus Mk2 at Bletchley Park.
I stood open mouthed in awe, bathed in the heat and smell of 2000 valves as they described how it was built using the information of 8 tatty black and white photos, and 1 small portion of the circuit diagram.
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A joy - born out of desparation. Luckily for us our American friends saved the day by getting an Enigma Machine from an U boat (according to a seriously bad film I watched).
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Have you not been to the computer museum in Boston ? If not, then you should. The only slightly sad thing is that there are computers in there that not only did I used to manage, I thought were pretty cool at the time.
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Yes Mark went there a few years ago, a cracking low key sort of place by the habour (or Harbor even).
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We in the North West are regarded as the home of the first computer. See:
www.computer50.org/mark1/new.baby.html
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A forerunner:
www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/collections/treasures/bab...p
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" Luckily for us our American friends saved the day by getting an Enigma Machine from an U boat (according to a seriously bad film I watched). "
Very, very tongue in cheek - I hope.
You must thank the British, Poles and Czechs (and not in that order either) for getting hold of an enigma machine.
The way American film makers want to change history is a big, big pet hate of mine.
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The way American film makers want to change history is a big, big pet hate of mine.
I was always taught that the middle initial in an American's name was silent and just a bit ' showy'..............Apparently not so with Mr. Bush.
v.v.v.v.b.r................................MD.
{Full quote of the message being replied to has been shortened - see "responding to posts" ( www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=42612 ) - DD}
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,>> We in the North West are regarded as the home ofthe first computer. See:
He was at least three years too late.
Mark I have probably broken, fixed and got an electric shock off of most of those computers in the boston museum.
The thing about bletchley is that all bar two were were destroyed, (the two ended up in GCHQ) and this thing, colossus.. well it It hums, it glows, it throbs and it chatters at you, it.....well it its alive!
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PU,
I'd reply in the other thread but it's locked. You have mail too!
Adam
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Have you not been to the computer museum in Boston ? If not, then you should. The only slightly sad thing is that there are computers in there that not only did I used to manage, I thought were pretty cool at the time.
I guess you mean MIT, Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
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Just tried to send some holiday snaps to a friend in Austria but have repeatedly received this message from MAILER-DAEMON@aon.at despite sending only a few (smallish) jpeg photos attached to each message. What exactly does it mean and how can I get round it?
"Hi. This is the qmail-send program at aon.at.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<*******@aon.at>:
The users mailfolder is over the allowed quota (size). (#5.2.2)"
Sounds like it is a problem at his end but, being a computer illiterate, I am not sure - it could be me!!
Thanks in advance
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Can you send mail to him without any attachements? What I'm trying to ask in a polite way is, are you absolutey sure the address is completely correct?
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Your recipients mail file is full and has been blocked and not accepting anything (bigiish)
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Here's a thought - your recipients mail file could be full and has been blocked and so, is not accepting anything big.
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Now there's a thought. you are getting good at this computer lark Adam
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Learnt from the best.
I want to meet him........or her! Seems q. k.nowlegable.
vbr.....................MD
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"Can you send mail to him without any attachements?
What I'm trying to ask in a polite way is, are you absolutey sure the address is completely correct?
Adam,
Actually, I did send him a v. short message saying I was having probs, and would send the photos in 2s and the short message was not "stopped"
I am absolutely sure the address is correct (thanks for being polite, especially in the light of recent threads!! and it was a very reasonable question anyway given my computer competence, would you like cup of tea as a reward for your politeness? I'd offer you tiffin but don't know what it is!!)
Thanks TVM - at least I now know that I am not at fault!!
Thanks both for very quick replies (Aren't I polite!!)
Phil (the Groveller)
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What a gent. I'm glad everything's sorted and we can go about our happy, fun filled lives.
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"happy, fun filled lives."
Well, it is after 6pm and I am on my second glass of the red stuff (OK, 3rd). Would you like a glass? Guaranteed to produce a mellow mood!
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I'm ok thanks - I'd hate to deprive you of it Phil!
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>>Pints or halves??
only jesting..................MD
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This suggestion could be well wide of the mark, but is this your friend's work e-mail address & is the "aon" as in Aon Insurance Brokers? If so, a friend who works for Aon in the UK told me some time ago that externally received e-mails with jpeg files are often blocked to prevent porn being e-mailed to staff. You could try inserting the pictures into a Word doc & e-mailing that instead.
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You could try inserting the pictures into a Word doc & e-mailing that instead.
Or zipping them.
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Don't think it's anything to do with AON insurance - he's a Maths teacher. Search on Google brings up this which looks similar to NTL - TV , telephone services etc.
www.aon.at/
Also have sent quite a few photos of hols, family etc over the last few years with no probs
But thanks for your interest and suggestion.
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stick them up on flicker or similar - even a yahoo group - and email the link
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Just a slight correction to avoid wasted searching - it's www.flickr.com/
There are some remarkable photographs on this website.
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My pc crashed recently and had to have the restore disc inserted which took it back to the day I bought it. I let PC World do it (in case it needed a repair at the same time) and they were kind enough to also install SP2 and a load of Microsoft updates without being asked.
The question is ............ should I disable the Windows firewall (which apparently is very basic) before I download and install the free ZoneAlarm firewall? Is there anything that I need to temporarily disable?
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The thing I don't like about the windows firewall is that it doesn't tell you what its blocking or noticing, whereas Zonealarm does. On the other hand there are some advantages to the windows version - its much easier to set exceptions for example.
You don't need to disable it to download the Zonealarm firewall but you will need to for installation/initiation.
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lescargot:
:: ;-) ::i am disappointed in you ! tut, tut, tut.
all along, i had thought you were ultra careful and now i discover you were using xp without updating it to sp2 plus latest updates.
anyway, the full answer to how to use zonealarm plus xp-sp2 is given at:
www.zonelabs.com/store/content/support/support.jsp...n
there, in the middle column, under "technical support" , you want the link which says:
" Windows XP SP2 and ZoneAlarm FAQs "
hope that helps.
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lescargot: :: ;-) ::i am disappointed in you ! tut, tut, tut. all along, i had thought you were ultra careful and now i discover you were using xp without updating it to sp2 plus latest updates.
I will explain. Before it crashed it had SP2 and was fully updated via automatic updates, but the restore discs(s) took it right back to square one. (It also had McAfee VirusScan and Privacy Service, Webroot Spy Sweeper, and Zone Alarm firewall.) Thanks for the ZoneAlarm info anyway. That's the next job.
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My trusty old Dell needs replacing, and being computer illiterate look to fellow BR'ers to assist.
Considering the DELL 9150 or 5150.
Basic requirements I will be shorlty be organising the installation of a complete client list for the last 16 years, ( currently stored on cards and in diaries!!) I've asked around and it's been suggested an excel spreadsheet should surfice.
Basically only use otherwise for routine daily accounts and reading articles
Would welcome any thoughts on requirements.
Is there a scanner / fax ansaphone/ printer machine and are they relaible.
Budget is not majorly important, just want the best item for the job without going too high a specification
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You may be interested in morgancomputers.co.uk - they have an offer on Dell 5150B's at the moment.
I have no connection, other than as a satisfied customer.
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Yep the Dell 5150s are nice quiet machines; I bought SWMBO one a few months back, and the fan noise is hardly noticeable, even in a bedroom. Plenty of expansion capability, if needed: 350 quid with a 19" flat panel monitor.
This site has a regualrly updated summary of Dell offers:-
www.dmxdimension.co.uk
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The Dell 5150 is made from good componentry, an Intel 945G chipset etc, £500 inclusive buys a well speced system with a 19" flat screen. Also the Dell 'e' series "value" monitors are excellent by any standards, the 19" provides Response time / Brightness / Contrast Ratio of 8ms / 300cd/m2 / 500:1 respectively.
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Volume 100 at around 100 notes per volume is therefor esomething like 10,000 questions about computers. I think we all need to get out more.
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You clearly haven't seen my post count. And that's after all the "crap" has been deleted!
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Volume 100 at around 100 notes per volume is therefor esomething like 10,000 questions about computers. I think we all need to get out more.
Yeah, let all go to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
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>>I think we all need to get out more.>>
This might be an even better place...:-)
www.hpu.edu/
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Yeah I agree though Boston is great in September and I was linking with Mark's comment under "Computer Birthplace".
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Many "out of the box" PCs have the trruly awful MS Works installed.
Dump this and download FREE OF CHARGE Open Office Suite from openoffice.org.
Includes word processer, spreadsheet and much more.
Roger. (Costa del Sol, España)
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>>something like 10,000 questions about computers>>
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10,000 postings - actual questions will be fewer in number.
But the pedantic comments will be close to that figure.
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Just went to Control Panel, Add/Remove programs to get rid of Yahoo toolbar and as I scrolled down came to about the equivalent of fifty pages of black screen, then white, then black and white stripes, blue, then brown, then bue, white and brown thick vertical stripes etc. This is between the listed programs "Creative Mediasource" and "Enhanced multimedia Keyboard Solution".
Add/Remove Programs otherwise seem to act perfectly normally.
Any Idea what this is or how to get rid of it?
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Oh, and if I change the "Sort by" tag at the top it is between different programs and the colours change. (Quite pretty but a bit of a pain- a description I sometimes use for my (out of earshot) wife!!)
Forgot to say Windows XP Prof, HP Media Centre PC
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There are three possibilities I can think of to correct the oddity (and not guaranteed in any case to work!):
A System Restore; to run sfc /scannow (note space) or to Repair XP (saves all your programes, applications, configuration etc).
Also see:
support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323496
experts.about.com/q/Windows-XP-3282/Add-remove-pro...m (this suggests sfc /scannow which fixes errors in Windows Files Protection).
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Thanks Stuart,
Tried Sys restore, no joy.
sfc /scannow says to put in XP windows disk which I don't have (it's somewhere on the computer!)
Looked at support and experts but they also require a disk.
Bit stumped now but caan live with it unless any other suggestions?
Thanks again for help and please excuse my computer illiteracy
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Still looking for HELP from this thread on vol 99
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=44...2
thanks to dalglish for replying - though i'm not sure whether either of his suggested diagnoses are correct,and more to the point, nor am i sure how to try to put them into practice. how would i check whether a computer was set to auto-disconnect?
3 additional bits of info
1) I'm not sure whether the problem as it now occurs (i.e. after going onto broadband) is the same problem as I had on dial-up, or whether it is a different problem with the same symptoms
2) The computer that is giving problems is receiving broadband via a wireless network (the adaptor is belkin). The other computer in the house which is attached to the line via a cable has no problems)
3) I said in my original post that there was no problem accessing email. That was certainly the case when I was on dial-up. On broadband, it is not. I've been unable to access email
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I've been unable to access email>>
If you are using Outlook Express, have you reconfigured (from Tools>Options>Accounts>highlight your e-mail account(s)>Properties>Connection tab> and, from the drop down menu, Enabled Always Collect Mail From (this will most likely be labelled LAN)? OK and OK out.
You may still have the configuration set to Collect from your dialup account.
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tyro :
to eliminate some possibilities, swap the computers (or swap the router & wireless ).
this should help establish whehter it is the pc that is giving trouble, or if it is do with wireless settings.
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tyro - re. autodisconnect - the quote below is from the settings for a netgear router. your router may have similar settings.
Idle Timeout
An idle Internet connection will be terminated after this time period.
If this value is zero (0), then the connection will be "kept alive" by re-connecting immediately whenever the connection is lost.
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Stuartli - I don't use Outlook Express - just the AOL software
Dalglish - thanks for the idea of changing things around. I guess I'll need to try that. As for the router, I do use a netgear router - as supplied by AOL - but am not sure how to check or change the settings. (I'm not exactly a whiz kid - more a technophobe. My Dad was telling me that the typewriter which he bought back in the 50s is still working fine. I don't know what the moral of that is, but I'm sure there is one.)
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>>just the AOL software>>
I might be wrong, but I understood that AOL uses a stylised version of Internet Explorer (which includes OE).
The latest version is detailed at:
downloads.channel.aol.com/browser
and the various earlier versions at:
www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/overview.htm
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Stuartli
Thanks. I don't know if it was clear from my post above, but the inability to access email (as to access websites) seems to pretty well always be cured by rebooting.
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If I am to follow your advice by swapping router and wireless - or, more simply, just trying to connect the 'problem computer' to by wire - there are 3 ways I could try it, and I'm not sure way I should go.
1) simply unplugging the router from "computer a" and telephone socket A and plugging it in to "problem computer" and telephone socket b without using the AOL "Easy-Install CD"
2) do above, but stick in AOL CD before doing anything else
3) forget the router, and just use the line cable or ethernet cable provided by AOL (& if so which?) to connect telephone socket b to the 'problem computer'
Yes, you can see that technology isn't my thing!
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tyro -
it would take me too long to reply so may i refer you to:
info.aol.co.uk/help/broadband/installguides/DG834G...l
and assuming you have a netgear dg834g model: kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834G.asp
other models can be found from: kbserver.netgear.com/downloads_support.asp
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Fair enough. I was responding to your comment that: "On broadband, it is not. I've been unable to access email", hence the suggestion to check the Always Collect Mail...etc setting.
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Has anyone here tried extending a wireless network with a repeater (or suitably configured access point)? I'm trying to help out a colleague who has an office/shed in the garden and his BT (groan) wireless kit doesn't quite have the range.
He bought a Linkysys AP that can be configured as a repeater, but in the small print (p.26 of the manual!) it says that it only works with other Linksys equipment...
So much for WiFi interoperability, and having looked, I notice that other range extenders have similar cautions on their boxes - Belkin for instance say that you *must* have one of their routers, although I've read reviews that suggest otherwise.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated. I have looked at BT's site, but they seem to believe their own hype about transmission range, and therefore don't appear to believe that anyone would want to extend it...
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There are various things you can do to extend the range (pringles and cds come to mind), also linksys do replacement antenae for some of their kit that will give better range. Or antena on a string so you can position better (inside a pringle packet for example.
Is this to give access to fixed kit in a shed so point to point needed or is it to extend the roaming area and bring the hammock at the bottom of the garden into range?
One thing to bear in mind is that a lot of kit is the same thing in different cases.
My brother has broadband - my parents dont. but they live in line of site of brothers house. I put an access point in each and configured them as a point to point bridge. The cases say netgear, the internals are amtel and the firmware I have them loaded with at the moment is linksys.
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"inside a pringle packet for example"
Do you mean a Pringle packet, or is this just shorthand for the antennas that look like them? If the former, I'd be interested to know more!
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real pringle packets - you need to find someone to eat them first though. Adam ?
www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/448
Or if you prefer tins of beans or coffee
www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html
google for homebrew wifi antenna or similar
Or if not directional a homebrew version of this
www.tritium.co.uk/Flatennaroot.htm
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I would use a couple of those devices that multiplexes IP traffic over your domestic ring mains,
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Thank you guys. Prompt and interesting replies, as ever.
I've only just discovered the ring main solution (I wonder how far the signal travels back along the wires?) but we would like to extend the coverage in the house, too. It's a very big (long) bungalow constructed largely of concrete blocks and the existing router seems to struggle after about two walls. Having a (re) distribution point outside should include not only the shed (and hammock) but all the bedrooms, wherein lurk teenagers with laptops...
Interesting how proprietorial some of the gear seems to be, given that a) it's supposed to comply with universal WiFi standards, and b) it's mostly made of the same bits anyway! I suppose I could ask BT what they recommend...
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The are the latest "standards" that are supposed to be higher powerand longer range, except there are NO standards for this new kit. Its not been ratified and is changing all the time making it a right nightmare.
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"supposed to be higher power and longer range"
You're speaking of Mimo and Belkin's 'Pre-N' I assume? Seems to be a complete mess, and only works properly with similar kit, of course. What annoys me is that the existing standards don't seem to be adhered to, either - particularly annoyed with the 'WiFi' certified Linksys access point that only works with other Linkys stuff. What is the point?
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This week I'm having a security alarm fitted in the house, which has an external garage. Admittedly not "IP", but during the tendering phase I asked each company I spoke to whether they could feed alarm signals over the mains as an easy way of hooking up the garage. I was surprised when told not (they even played dumb on knowing about "IP over mains" when I told them where I got the thought from) and as the distance is too great for reliable wireless, they have dug a channel and laid a cable.
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Probably becuase Alarms have to be installed to a British Standard, which does not include that communications method.
You have dropped some cat 6 in the trench as well havent you?
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You have dropped some cat 6 in the trench as well havent you?
;-)
More than my life's worth! Working from home most of the time I'm in the UK, the missus complains as it is I'm a slave to the computer, and to network enable the garage - in which I have recently installed brand new kitchen units for storage, hifi, and goodness knows what else, remember - would be tantamount to me being expected to move in!
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But its for the Security camera and telephone dear......
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What about the repeater in the loft of the bungalow? Might overcome some of the issues with signal strength?
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"What about the repeater in the loft of the bungalow?"
Good idea, thanks. Will try that when we've found a repeater that works with BT stuff...
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The missus often talks with her friends and family abroad using Skype or MSN, and would now like a web cam since they all do, too. She uses her Compaq Armada E500 (Still going strong, thanks, Mark) Win XP SP2 laptop without separate screen, so wants something desk standing so she doesn't have to fiddle with clips each time she opens the lid. I found the Logitech® QuickCam® Sphere? MP that stands on a tall spine but she doesn't want me to spend ninety quid.
Other recommended, cheaper, options, please?
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"Logitech® QuickCam® Sphere"
Isn't that one that follows you about the room? If you can do without that, I'd buy an Ebuyer or Argos cheapy, as the optical quality is usually sufficient for the low resolution involved. Couldn't you stick one on top of whatever SWMBO uses for task lighting..?
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Long time no speak!
Hope life is treating you well, JBJ.
As it happens we purchased one today, a V-Gear jobbie that uses the same base to either stand on a desk or clip to a laptop lid.
Seems pretty good so long as the PCMCIA USB2-0 converter we purchased is used; frame refresh is as seamless as you're going to get with it, but plugged instead in to the USB 1.1 port on SWMBO's laptop, performance is truly dire. A graphic (pardon the pun) demonstration of the data rate difference between the two standards.
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My brother in CA (and hence my mum in South Wales) use the Logitech Fusion. Not cheap but very good. Having a USB phone reluctant to joi nthem with a camera for £57 :-)
Spec for this seems good though but you need USB2 and a fast BB connection.
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Thanks SjB. Hope all is well with you too. Certainly sounds it... :-)
WRT cameras, I'm surprised how durable the relatively low-res VGA standard seems to be. A client of mine recently installed an external web-cams to show the view from his hotel, and although it works OK, the resolution is very limiting. I know file size is a factor, but it seems strange that you can buy a 8-10Mpixel camera in the high street, but web-cams are still stuck on 300k!
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>>, but web-cams are still stuck on 300k!>>
Not quite true...:-)
tinyurl.com/n64dd
tinyurl.com/m2lqk
However VGA resolution of 640x480 is more than adequate for video-conferencing even at near full screen using Skype.
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I see the second of those is interpolated, but I take your point. VGA is perfectly adequate for close-ups and conferencing and, as TVM says, frame-rate is the important thing.
However, I have yet to find a camera that can operate as a web-cam but take reasonably high-res (say, 2-3Mp) quality stills for uploading at intervals. I would have thought there were plenty of uses for such a thing, not least security - a policeman friend of mine opines that half the CCTV pics he gets to look at aren't good enough to positively identify anyone!
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>>I have yet to find a camera that can operate as a web-cam>>
Several Fuji and, IIRC, Canon digital cameras can double up as webcams; link one up with a motion sensing software package such as that available from Creative and you have a reasonable security system for your PC or area of a property.
Fuji models which can be used as webcams as described as suitable for Internet conferencing.
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"Several Fuji and, IIRC, Canon digital cameras can double up as webcams"
Indeed, but low-res only in that mode, unfortunately. That's understandable, given the data rates required, but it would be nice to be able to shoot every few seconds at full, or at least intermediate, resolution. The cameras can do it, but not usually with remote access to the results!
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but not usually with remote access to the results!>>
My offspring has a server and can view the interior of his home from work using a webcam whenever he wishes via his own website.
The image is refreshed every minute or so.
By the way my other offspring, who lives in the Caymans, has no trouble recognising me when we are video-conferencing.
It's a form of punishment....:-)
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>>My offspring has a server and can view the interior of his home from work using a webcam whenever he wishes via his own website.
I use the free software from www.orb.com to do much the same , in fact it allows me to view / upload / download / do just about anything on my home PC from any web terminal. I hate to think of the security consequences of using it, bit it's rather 'cool' * to be able to stream MP3s from my home PC to my 3G phone.
* In a rather sad, geeky way.
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"It's a form of punishment."
LOL! I'm sure that explains why video-phones are not exactly setting the world alight.
Perhaps there will be a market for booths with selectable backgrounds (office/station/airport, etc). It's alright dear, I'm working late again...
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Hi Gents,
Could do with a quick answer on this. I've never really used a web hosting service before. I'm no stranger to making websites but when it comes to hosting them, not got a clue. I've been shown to a company called 1&1 Internet by a mate and the Business Package costs £10.56 a month for something like 3gb of webspace (more than enough) and 25gb monthly traffic along with hundreds of POP3 email addresses.
However, someone else has recommended someone called Duport which has unlimited bandwidth and hosting space for just 60 quid for the year.
The Duport one sounds far too good to be true.
Any advice? A quick answer would be fantastic.
Many thanks,
Adam
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Always check the support forums before spending money on hosting. Also be sure what you need in terms of facilities, perl, wordpress, mysql, sqlserver whatever.
Unlimited bandwidth and space is never going to be on offer. read the small print very carefully.
best deals are from the big US hosting companies but fasthosts seem to get a fair press in the uk.
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someone else has recommended someone called Duport which has unlimited bandwidth and hosting space for just 60 quid for the year. The Duport one sounds far too good to be true.
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or someone is telling you porkies. check out the prices on duport's website.
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I have. And it does say 60 quid for the year.
It turns out two more people use it that are friends of friends and they've had no problems. The unlimited hosting bit isn't really of concern as it would be a small website for an engineering firm so it's more an advertisement for them really.
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have. And it does say 60 quid for the year
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very interesting that. can you give us the link, please.
you see, i have checked and my search shows for £6 per month or £54 per year, you get 2gigabytes of space, and bandwidth of 60 gigs a month. hardly unlimited.
but then you seem to be getting different quotes, unless we are talking about different companies.
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Pipex are pretty competitive. I just wish they'd stop using David Hasselhoff to promote themselves!
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adam - taht explains it. - i was talking about different company
www.duportonline.co.uk/
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That would explain it Dalglish!
Thanks for everyone's help. That Duport webhosting service has been chosen with the view that if all goes wrong, 60 quid is nothing (to a company) so I'll let you know how it all goes.
Thanks very very much for all of your advice and help.
Adam
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When I turn off my pc it quite often hangs (if that is the correct term) on the final screen, i.e. "Windows is shutting down..." and I have to press and hold the "on" switch on the tower for about 5 seconds to get it to actually turn off. Is this a serious fault that needs rectification or can I just view it as a minor annoyance which I can tolerate?
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What operating system are you using? This was common on Windows 98SE and there is a downloadable patch on the Microsoft website that should cure it, if XP then perhaps google "XP shutdown problem" or similar.
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As cheddar correctly states there used to be a shutdown problem with 98SE and the patch can be downloaded from:
tinyurl.com/3f8
In the case of XP it's not always quite as simple. This troubleshooter may help:
www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php
or
support.microsoft.com/kb/308029/en-us
or
tinyurl.com/6kt9j
There are many other similar links.
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What operating system are you using?
XP Home Edition.
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When I turn off my pc it quite often hangs
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lescargot:
1. has this been the case for weeks/monts ? ;
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2. did it start after your recent crash and reinstall of xp-sp2 performed by pcworld staff?
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1. has this been the case for weeks/monts ? ; or 2. did it start after your recent crash and reinstall of xp-sp2 performed by pcworld staff?
2. ~ a couple of weeks after the crash and restore/reinstall. It shut down OK before the crash and immediately afterwards. No doubt not connected, but sometimes I now lose the HonestJohn site although I remain connected to t'internet. It never rains but it pours!
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If I use System Restore to go back to, say, the day the computer was restored by PC World will I lose any programmes that I subsequently installed?
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You will lose all the registry settings, shortcuts, startup settings, and the like, although you wouldn't normally lose the files themselves.
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I have a shutdown problem with 98SE with AVG installed. It is due to the program Avgemc not exiting during a 98SE Start\shutdown and the PC hangs on the aformentioned Windows screen. Avgemc can be exited using Cntrl-Alt-Del to highlight it and clicking 'end task'. Or a BAT program called 'End-it-all' can be used to exit all. But I don't know of a specific command that would instruct to just exit Avgemc.
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Upgrade to XP and two problems are solved :)
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Thread closed - volume 101 is now open :)
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