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SDi vs TDi - mss1tw
Prompted by Perfections post: Why do manufacturers still make SDi engines?

Are there practical advantages, or are any reasons purely fiscal/non 'real world?

Or is it just a case of 'why not?'

SDi vs TDi - Quinny100
Cheaper to build becuase you don't need a turbo, which is an expensive part as they are made to very fine tolerances.

Normally aspirated diesels should be more economical as well.

Not that many mainstream manufacturers still do them for passenger cars these days as every a small turbo makes a massive difference to performance and driveability without sacrificing economy too much.
SDi vs TDi - mss1tw
Exactly - the first point makes sense but when no-one is buying the things, is there any point?
SDi vs TDi - LHM
It's always amused me to see the 'i' in 'TDi'. No doubt copying the fuel-injected petrol equivalent 'i' badging, but forgetting that diesel engines had been fuel-injected long before that!
SDi vs TDi - Morgie
The "i" means intercooled not injection.
SDi vs TDi - SteVee
>>The "i" means intercooled not injection.<<
Is that still true for 'SDi' - as in the thread title ?
I didn't think there was an intercooler without forced induction.
SDi vs TDi - Morgie
>>The "i" means intercooled not injection.<<
Is that still true for 'SDi' - as in the thread
title ?
I didn't think there was an intercooler without forced induction.


Don't know about other makes, but SDi Rovers were turbo'd with intercoolers. SD ones were turbo'd without intercoolers. They later changed it to TD & TDi so really depends on the manufacturers own terminology.
SDi questions - tyro
And if I may add my own questions to this thread:

Is the VAG 1.9 SDi engine a PD (i.e. high pressure diesel) without a turbo, or is it an old fashioned (there must be a technical word, but I don't know it) diesel?

And what does SDi stand for anyway?
SDi questions - Nickdm
SDi-engined cars are of course cheaper than their TDi equivalents, so the manufacturer plugs another market niche and might get another sale...

In 2003 I ran an SDi Polo for 23k miles over 8 months up and down the M40; it was a perfectly good engine for cruising and did around 50mpg. The TDi Polo was well over UK£1000 more expensive I recall.
SDi questions - Xileno {P}
"And what does SDi stand for anyway? "

SlowDireInjection ;-)


Far better as a TDi.
SDi vs TDi - Xileno {P}
I think you will find it was SD1 as opposed to SDi.
SDi vs TDi - stevied
Useless fact probably, but PD = Pumpe Düse, which literally, seems to mean Nozzle Pumps!
SDi vs TDi - XantKing
Makes sense to me, almost all the minicabs round here in Glasgow are SDi models, probably spend 95% of their lives simple trailing between the city centre and whatever suburb they are based in - for which purposes, I guess 64bhp is perfectly adequate. They're also cheap as chips to buy and run, and as the examples mentioned above show, look after them right and you can run them to the moon.

I think it's a pretty staggering achievement, the fact that they are capable of such mileages and that minicab drivers still buy them mean they must be fairly reliable and up to the job.

In terms of fuel consumption, I don't think it's necessarily the case that losing the turbo makes them more economical - some turbos I would have thought had the advantage there as the engine is not having to be revved quite so hard to get anything out of it.

Also, does a turbo, by it's nature, not improve emissions in some cases - better to have a small turbo diesel with the same output than a larger naturally aspirated one? I had always thought that this is the reason we see so few unblown diesels in passenger cars now. Migh tbe wrong though!

To this end, I'm always slightly surprised that the Octavia doesn't have the VAG 1.4TDi unit fitted over the bigger SDi. I guess the bigger engine is under less stress in these specific operating conditions.

SDi vs TDi - TimOrridge
Just to confuse you my mate has a Astra DI 16V which has a turbo

I always thought that SDI meant supercharged but I know its not now. Am I rigth in thinking that Mazda did a supercharged diesel in the mid 90's in the 626?
SDi vs TDi - Sprice
Aye, the 626 supercharged diesel was called 'comprex' but its output was poor by todays standards and it was only in production for something like 15 months.
SDi vs TDi - LHM
I think you will find it was SD1 as opposed to SDi.


I think he means later (post-SD1) Rovers. There never was an SD1 SDi ......

Must lie down.
SDi vs TDi - Xileno {P}
You're right, I was thinking of that VM engined SD1. Apologies to Morgie.
SDi vs TDi - massey
TDI = Turbo direct injection
SDI = Standard direct injection
SDi vs TDi - GregSwain
Cheaper to make, less strain put on engine, more economical to run. However, ludicrously slow, and doesn't have that turbo whistle and shove of power that many turbo-diesel drivers enjoy. They do seem to run to higher mileages and older ages than turbocharged units - maybe this is due to the cost of replacing a turbo causing cars to be scrapped when the turbo goes bang.

My sister has a Pug 205D (1.8 normally aspirated XUD). In such a small, light car the 60bhp engine feels more than adequate, but putting a similar output (albeit more modern) engine into something the size/weight of an Octavia would result in a horrible driving experience.
SDi vs TDi - XantKing
Curiously, although slow on paper, I've been on plenty of taxi rides in the passenger seat of them which have felt like I'm sitting in a Veyron. Guess that's a mixture of the alcohol in my belly and the nutter behind the wheel!

I see the newer shape Octavia seems to have dropped the SDi option.

SDi vs TDi - retgwte
isnt the army using non turbo citroen belingos on the falklands, and were chosen over the turbos due to "mechanical simplicity", they can get 3 for the price of a landrover

SDi vs TDi - Dr Rubber
TDI is a VAG trademark IIRC, and is used on direct injection (PD or non PD) turbocharged diesels. SDI on VAG cars, as other posters have said, is used on direct injection (PD or non PD) normally aspirated diesels. The 1.9 unit is non PD, and the new 2.0 in the Golf V is PD.
Why a 1.9SDI over a 1.4TDI? Torque. I've driven both, and yes a 1.9SDI is slower than a 1.4TDI, but is much nicer to drive as it has so much more torque.
Joe
SDi vs TDi - nortones2
SFAIK, the n/a SDI has 104ft/lb max, whereas the 1.4 turbo 1.4 has 140ft/lb max.
SDi vs TDi - LHM
Didn't they re-badge the SDi as a TDum?

Sorry for the Friday afternoon feeble joke :-)
SDI vs TDi - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}
As someone who has bought both in a VW
SDI = Suction Direct Injection (good mpg as 75 hp but s l o w up long hills)
TDi = Turbocharged Direct Injection (less economical but quick even as 100ps)