Hi all,
This is a bit of a techincal/legal matter so any help would be appreciated.
My friend recently sold a used audi car. When my friend bought the car, he bought it as a Quattro model (ie 4 wheel drive) and he had no reason to doubt this. Now that he has sold it the new buyer has discovered that the car is a non quattro.
The new buyer has threatened to take him to the small claims court and get his money back. My friend his really upset by all this as he is not mechanically minded and he sold the car aS a Quattro and did not know any better!
He wants to know what is likely to happen as the matter has gone to the small claims court and what he should do..how should he deal with the matter.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers to All
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Well I do not mean to offend you but this all seems a bit wierd. Surely it says quattro on the V5? How you friend could not know seems beyond me, how the buyer could not know also seems beyond me however on face value:
If your friend has represented in writing that it is a quattro then case closed your friend should pay up immediately.
If your friend has not represented in writing that it is a quattro and is prepeared to lie in court that he never represented it as one then he is likely to win the case through lack of evidence.
If he is an honest man then he should pay up. He also has a claim against the guy who sold it to him again depending on proof.
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If its wrong for osmeone to do it to your friend, then its wrong for your friend to do it to someone else.
However, I guess the first point is are you sure that it is not a Quattro ?
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Maybe someone in the past has stuck a 'Quattro' badge on the back to impress people? Seen that sort of thing done before.
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When my friend bought the car, he bought it as a Quattro model (ie 4 wheel drive) and he had no reason to doubt this
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never cease to be amazed.
fake designer junk, fake email scams, now a fake quattro.
and your friend had "no reason to doubt this ".
soon we may have honda-crv badged as bme x5 4.4 litres. and the punters won't notice.
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He may not have known but the fact is if he sold it as a Quattro and it's not, then it's misrepresentation and and he must refund the money.
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This actually throws up all sorts of issues.
Presumably if he thought it was a quattro then he would have insured it as one? However ins companies go by the reg and their database would show exactly what model it was?
Or even worse, perhaps it is a ringed / cloned car, sold on with the identity of a quattro but a different car altogether.
Only course of action I can see is refund the money to the guy and then investigate of the previous owner / seller. If not available, then re-advertise with a correct description.
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soon we may have honda-crv badged as bme x5 4.4 litres. and the punters won't notice.
The Rolls-Royce hatchback I bought a few years ago was rather small, and looked a little like a Fiesta. Do you think I may have been swindled?
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The Rolls-Royce hatchback I bought ... Do you think I may have been swindled?
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of course not, sweetie pie. you are too clever for that ;-)
however,
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=30...3
but then
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=30098&...e
and i am sure there was another post which i can't find where someone was conned, thinking it was a quattro because the badge said so.
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p.s.
does anyone think it strange that the author of this thread is the same as that of
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=30098&...e
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mmmmmmm, me smells a ratfink daglish.
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and this one:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=30291&...e
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and this one:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=30291&...e
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and no comment from the mods about any of this ?
does anyone smell a troll ?
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>and no comment from the mods about any of this ?
We're thinking.
>does anyone smell a troll ?
I'm not sure. If I become sure, then I'll do something, right now I am not sure.
I'm watching, so you'll find the witch hunt unneccessary.
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"We're thinking"
Hmmm - tricky - that will be a while then.....
"I'm watching, so you'll find the witch hunt unneccessary"
ACE! I hear they still use the ducking stool and the hot stones in the hand in the northants/oxfordshire borders.
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I'm not sure. If I become sure, then I'll do something, right now I am not sure.
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and the verdict was?
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Harmless entertainment which people should feel free to ignore if they wish.
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what sort of place did your friend buy it from, and how long ago.
if His seller has a case against him, he may have a case against the person who sold it to him
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I think your friend hasn't a leg to stand on. Put it down to experience.
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Bobby G's called it. You insure by reg number now and that will show up quattro or no so either a troll or the car is a non-quattro cloned as a quattro and possible other things too.
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Troll ? (I thought it was Nowegian dwarf !) can anyone enlighten me ?
audi80tdi should nail his colours to the mast on this one I feel.
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Troll ? ... can anyone enlighten me ?
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take your pick from
www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/anti_troll_faq.htm
audi80tdi should nail his colours to the mast on this one I feel.
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kindly folk are continuing to reply to the origiinal question. mark(rlbs) has said that the matter is under investigation, and perhaps that means that audi80tdi amy not be able to reply to pugugly's request until the inquiry has been concluded.
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Thanks Dalglish,
I understand now.
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The jury has been out 10 days.
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The jury has been out 10 days.
I take that the term is used metaphorically here -- the Small Claims Court of course doesn't have a jury. A registrar decides in minutes.
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The jury has been out 10 days
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glad i am not a juror. type his name in to the "forum search" on the right and look at his style of questions.
and he is now looking for a new quattro at
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=31...0
by the way, badger does not seem to be on the same wavelength as the hunters here.
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Quite possibly, Dalglish. It's called senile decay and it'll get you one day. Either that or I shouldn't try subtlety . . .
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"The main feature of Münchhausen's syndrome is chronic, unrelenting, factitious, physical symptoms that enable the patient to obtain repeated medical treatment or hospitalization." An Audi variant has now been discovered:)
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"The main feature of Münchhausen's syndrome is chronic, unrelenting, factitious, physical symptoms that enable the patient to obtain repeated medical treatment or hospitalization." An Audi variant has now been discovered:)
And Munchausens by proxy is when it's your friend.
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I had a car with Münchhausen's once.
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I had a car with Münchhausen's once.
And when it wasn't feeling well your wife's car broke down?
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In deep snow, the good Baron Munchausen tethered his horse to a post. The snow melted, it transpired that the 'post' was the tip of the church spire, the horse was now suspended by it's reins. Thought you'd like to know that.
A bit like this thread, really.
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My proxy is down so I cant download munchausen's or anything else!
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