the growler -
i will let someone else reply to this question; but can i ask how you fared with the question/replies (as posted in the previous crq vol 34 ) to your cumulative security update for oe6 ?
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Dalglish -- thanks for remembering. Got nowhere I'm afraid, nowhere on MS could I find the fix you mentioned Q???.exe. Took solace in a rather fine Merlot instead.....
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This is the latest IE6 update (Service Pack 1):
tinyurl.com/3drq
It will include any earlier updates/critical updates etc; however, still worth checking whether there are any new updates after installing it.
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I would think this is the update referred to earlier by Dalglish:
tinyurl.com/6mplk
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I've said it before here: I can't think why anyone would want to partition a drive these days. Especially now drives are so cheap. If you need a second (third or fourth) drive then cheap to buy one - and less chance of catastrpohic failure is one drive "goes down". My usual recommended configuration would be 1 "system" drive, with the OS and all program files, then one "data" drive where everything you care most about is kept. Hopefully your "system" drive would have enough free space remaining to leave room for a backup of your most sensitive data, if not all of it.
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I can't think why anyone would want to partition a drive these days. Especially now drives are so cheap.
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one of the links
( partition.radified.com/partitioning_2.htm )
posted by stuartli gives a number of very good reasons - and after taking account of the cheapness of hard-drives.
stuartli - thanks for the gentle reminder re. tinyurl. i was just too lazy to use it. (i prefer the one which i cannot remember now, that lets you preview the actual link details before it opens ).
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Thank you Dalglish, that article pretty much supports multiple drives better than partitioned drives!
The writer's advice under Advantage 1 says "Personally, I advocate the use of a small, fast drive to run your O/S and apps, and a large, slow drive for (cheap) mass storage. Your 50-gigs worth of MP3s don't need to be storage on an expensive, high-performance drive." 'Nuff said eh?
But all the other advantages are misleading as well.
Advantage 2 isn't an advantage of partitioning, it's an advantage of having two separately addressable drives, whether they are physically separate or the same drive.
Advantage 3 - as advantage 2. If you have 100 gb of data it will pretty much be an overnight (or longer) job anyway whether it's on the inside or outside of the drive. The guy is a little misleading with his swicthing between different uses of the word data..
Advantage 4, 5 & 6 are all equally, actually better serviced by having two separate drives.
So all in all, the article shows no advantages unique to partitioning. (The performance gains from data position on the disk may appear significant, but they really won't show up much on the screen unless you are doing disk intensive work. Which most people don't sit at their PC doing. So an extra 30 seconds on a hour's DVD rip won't really notice...)
The other serious but rather nerdy advantage for two separate drives is to be able to spread I/O which will give a much more significant performance advantage in most operations than having all the I/O going on on one drive.
But IMO, and all things considered, for the average home user partitioning is an overcomplicated waste of time.
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As I only have one (60GB) HDD, it contains two partitions.
The first is the main (C) drive and the second partition (R = Restore) is used to house all my important files and folders.
These are regularly backed up using Norton Ghost; if C goes down I can then fall back onto the second partition without losing important data.
And yes, "C" did go down earlier this year after it became corrupted for no apparent or obvious reason; the hard drive itself was discovered to be faultless afterwards and is still used.
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Hi Stuart,
Apologies if I'm being a bit over careful here but I've seen too many disks fail...
Are you backing up your important data elsewhere? Even with two partitions, a failure of the disk could well take out both partitions.
Hard disks are almost for free now, might be worth getting another to push data onto, or just back up the good stuff to CDR/CDRW.
I have a sneaky feeling you've already got this covered, but I'd feel terrible if you lost data for the sake of a post.
Same advice goes for everyone else too, don't put all your eggs (data) in one basket (hard disk)!
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Lee
Having a Fabialous time.
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...and then there's your backup device...this is just for the sake of a true story, not to alarm anyone.
One of our customers, a major European travel company, had a monthly backup cycle, with the tapes from 1st being over-written on 1st of the next month, 2nd on 2nd and so on.
He replaced the tape device he was using for the backups for a new model. The backups worked perfectly, and verified afterwards.
Then he had a catastophic disk crash. No problem, he thought, I have backups. But the device would not read them. Nor would any other similar device. They had been kept correctly in the fire safe etc etc.
Without his major system his business was down the tubes.
We spent two weeks manually recovering data from his crashed disk. We managed about 80%, which was enough for him to continue in business. It cost a lot, but they were most grateful. And it was very satisfying too...
And do I learn? No. I was in the habit of backing up my music collection to DAT tape. It eventually ran to about 5 tapes. I used to do a full backup about every 3 months. The only time I needed to restore it, I found the software product was incapable of doing so. It would get about 2/3rds they way through a tape then reject the rest. I lost quite a bit of music, albeit temporarily.
And I still don't understand the point of partitions...
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Good advice smokie, I've seen it a good few times too.
Went to a series of John Craddock lectures last year ( www.kimberry.co.uk/IndexFlash.aspx ) and he made the point very clearly about backups & failures.
Along the lines of:
"A failure is an event. Everything falls apart and you just reach for the manual and follow what you planned and it all works out nicely.
And how do you know your plan is going to work? You test it regularly by actually doing it"
We have "fire drills" at our place where we do rebuilds as if from a total failure. Nice to know it works when you need it to!
Course I still don't really get around to it at home. Maybe next week... ;-)
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Lee
Having a Fabialous time.
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the growler -
assuming you are running 98se:
here are the links for direct download of the files:
march 2004
Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 (KB837009)
tinyurl.com/3ohe2
july2004
Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB823353)
tinyurl.com/4lgl3
december 2004 - (update referred to by sturatli)
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 for Windows 98, Windows NT and Windows Millennium (KB889293)
tinyurl.com/5wbn7
to apply the updates - follow microsoft guide as below:
Instructions
Click the Download button in the upper right-hand corner of this page to start the download, or choose a different language from the drop-down list and click Go.
Do one of the following:
To start the installation immediately, click Open or Run this program from its current location.
To copy the download to your computer for installation at a later time, click Save or Save this program to disk.
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Dalglish
Just in case you don't have or are not aware of TinyURL, you'll find it reduces massives U%RLs to tiny ones:
www.tinyURL.com
All you have to do (except it seems for Firefox) is to click on the tinyURL button on your browser windows which you will have dragged from its website - the large URL is automatically reduced and copied to your clipboard.
All that is required then is to paste it into your posting or wherever you wish it to be placed.
Firefox users will have to Contl+C and then +V the new URL to copy and paste it into another document.
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Stuart
There is a Firefox extension to do this here:
tinyurl.com/5c7cq
Chris
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Many thanks for the link.
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THanks all.
What I was really hoping for was something which went like this:
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Partition disk
Proceed? (Y/N)
Please wait.....
Disk partitioned successfully.
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Seems technology has a way to go yet.
Thanks again.
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Growler.
We (in the IT game) have worked very hard for a large number of years to mystify things. Indeed we even coined an acronym (as we do) called FUD to cover this (Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt)
When the days of computers started to look as tho they would become consumer devices, we worked hard to to make sure the least suitable candidate was widely accepted. Thank the lord we succeeded.
Our gospel and teachings has been accepted far and wide. Video recorders became too complicated to use with too many little used features. Car radios are festooned with small buttons and pretty but useless features.
Now let us all pray. On bended knees.
Hail the God of Technology
Give us the powers to bemuse, confuse and belittle our consumers
Death to techno dinasours.
Amen.
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Seems technology has a way to go yet.
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growler - you would not do the same with a shell of a house, would you?
the builder asks - do you want the house partitioned?
you reply yes, you want the space allocated in specified proportions for living, dining, cooking, sleeping, garage, toilets, etc.
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Indoor toilet?
How unhygienic.
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I knew something was wrong when I could cook, bathe and watch TV all from the comfort of my own bed.
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Adam
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I knew something was wrong when I could cook, bathe and watch TV all from the comfort of my own bed.
Not at all, this is the normal pattern of existence* for a student. Students live in bedsits: I watched in The Young Ones, when I was young.
* except for the bathing bit. A male student who bathes had better not do it too often, or he'll be ostraicised by t'others.
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You're joking! If I'm not wearing a new jacket every week I'm berated - think stereotypical student and then reverse it completely.
It's a what thread? Computers?
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Indoor toilet? How unhygienic.
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:: ;-) ::
so now we all know where you got frosted. never mind, some blonketty blonk bloke will help fill in for you. that's my contribution to toilet humour.
:: ;-) ::
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But I don't live in a hard disk.
It is supposed to be working for me, not the other way around. I mean I can put a set of hot cams in a Harley and have it all back together and running before lunch, and it does as it's told (if it won't a 3lb hammer provides an occasional incentive)--- but a bunch of stupid bits of what-all in a plastic box -- the instructions are worse than the UK Gov't Pension Claim Form.......
I think I shall take this heap of ordure to one of those shops where there are nameless wiry things halfway out of open boxes all over the floor, plastic trays full of discarded fragments, "n" number of PC's degutted and none actually working, and where a strange form of life consisting of gnomic figures with peculiar haircuts, clothes from the thrift shop and coke-bottle glasses communicates in polyphonic grunts.
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Hiya Growler,
I think the closest thing to what you need is partition magic - not quite as simple as you'd like, but much, much, much, much easier than trying to do it all again from Windows.
hth,
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Lee
Having a Fabialous time.
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